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05-01-2021, 02:46 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Originally Posted by Newf026
I had a 50 amp done that at my house and its really convenient. Just make sure that you electrician knows that this is going to an RV. It's really a split 120V service. I have heard stories of electricians mistakenly wiring it as 240V.
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It is 240.
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05-01-2021, 03:29 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 26B
State: Ohio
Posts: 490
THOR #20900
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The electrician that did mine had no clue and put one hot leg to the neutral, the other hot leg split to the two hots, such that both sides got 220. The neutral had a wire nut on it and was pushed into the back of the box. I had it specifically installed for my parents' RV when my house was built and didn't check it figuring an electrician ought to know what they're doing. My parents plugged in and blew out their ATS, converter, and every appliance that takes AC except the fridge. Did a couple thousand dollars in damage to their Feetwood.
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05-01-2021, 03:35 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I hope your electricians completed operations liability coverage paid for those repairs.
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05-01-2021, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Missouri
Posts: 2,327
THOR #6903
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The ground would have tripped the breaker
No ground?
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Originally Posted by atreis
The electrician that did mine had no clue and put one hot leg to the neutral, the other hot leg split to the two hots, such that both sides got 220. The neutral had a wire nut on it and was pushed into the back of the box. I had it specifically installed for my parents' RV when my house was built and didn't check it figuring an electrician ought to know what they're doing. My parents plugged in and blew out their ATS, converter, and every appliance that takes AC except the fridge. Did a couple thousand dollars in damage to their Feetwood.
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05-01-2021, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 26B
State: Ohio
Posts: 490
THOR #20900
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lwmcguire
The ground would have tripped the breaker
No ground?
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Ground was attached, and did trip the breaker, but that takes a little time to happen. The damage was already done.
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05-01-2021, 04:28 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,646
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Popfla
Yep.
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There you go
I have a dog bone for every possible scenario for my RV 50 AMP Cord.
50 =>30 amp
50 =>20/15 Standard house hold
50 => Portable Generator 30 amp plug [I only use this at home when exercising my Sinemate Portable Generator.
Don't forget the Southwire Surge protector in front of the 50amp RV Cord for added precaution.
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05-01-2021, 04:39 PM
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#27
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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05-01-2021, 04:40 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,646
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichS
We are pretty fortunate. Our RV is on the side of our house and I have 30 amp service to it. I live in Florida and I have my AC ON all the time set at 75. Before camping turn the fridge on couple iof days before load up. When we get back from a trip. AC on fridge on. Take our time unloading.
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I see this and read it all the time, but I have never understood, We have Norcold propane fridge, and when I turn it on assuming it is very hot and empty; it is ice cold 6 hours later? I may turn it on the night before leaving, but that is only because we may start to load it up the night before and that is to keep it cold NOT to get it cold to load. Of course the above it assumes that it was not already on because at times we keep everything running depending on what we are doing.
Am I missing something here? One day, I will have to put a tray of ice in the freezer to see how long it takes to freeze, that process may take overnight, but 2 days? We actually load ice from home icemaker to smaller sealable plastic containers and store that in our Norcold freezer for trips.
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05-01-2021, 04:52 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Some folks have residential refrigerators...
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05-01-2021, 05:28 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,646
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Some folks have residential refrigerators...
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Ahhhhhhhh ....
I know it is pretty common to hear some call Norcold "Never Cold" so I assume that something must happen with the absorption fridges over time that they don't get cold enough or fast enough? If we put our fridge on 5 Frostflakes, it will freeze water and beer in the fridge. We keep it on 3 frostflakes and the beer is very cold. We just made a mod change so now while driving we can run the Norcold on Inverter without propane or generator running
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05-01-2021, 08:28 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2011 FW Hurricane 33T
State: England
Posts: 1,296
THOR #16471
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkoldman
Am I missing something here? One day, I will have to put a tray of ice in the freezer to see how long it takes to freeze, that process may take overnight, but 2 days? We actually load ice from home icemaker to smaller sealable plastic containers and store that in our Norcold freezer for trips.
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If you put a tray of ice in the freezer.... is it not already frozen?
We also do the same by bagging ice cubes from home... it also is a good tattle-tail if the reefer freezer fails at any time and then refreezes.
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05-01-2021, 08:46 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,646
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldWEB
If you put a tray of ice in the freezer.... is it not already frozen?
We also do the same by bagging ice cubes from home... it also is a good tattle-tail if the reefer freezer fails at any time and then refreezes.
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Oh you got me I will have to yield to that
I should have said "I may put a ice tray of water to see how long it freezes"
But I agree 100% with putting frozen ice cubes into the freezer. My wife is a cleanliness fanatic; so she uses 4 of those reusable plastics containers; they are stackable and about 4"x3"x6" each. We hardly ever run out of ice, and if we do; we just buy a bag of ice and refill the containers. We put the rest of bag in outside fridge
As you state, the proof is that none of the individually frozen ice cubes ever sticks together. And on some trips we have gone as long as 4 hours with the Fridge completely off. When we turned it back on the cubes still were not sticking. In future; we will always have it on, because we can now run that fridge off inverter, but on a recent trip to Colorado when we got over 3,500ft, I turned the propane off, I was surprised that we almost didn't miss it being on. We still had ice to throw away when we got back to Dallas
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05-01-2021, 09:50 PM
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#33
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Never throw away ice...
Just switch to Scotch on the rocks...
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05-01-2021, 10:30 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,646
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Never throw away ice...
Just switch to Scotch on the rocks...
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Where is the Duck? I may be a newbie RV Owner, but I am a professional alcoholic (when I am not driving of course ?
See the glasses in the picture, my daughter bought those for me years ago. They have some kind of liquid inside the glass around the perimeter that when put into the freezer will freeze and keep the glass frozen for a long time as if it had a ice cubes in it So I can have my Cognac on the rocks straight up
While I was at the freezer, I took a picture of two of the containers my wife uses to store ice, we travel with four of those containers filled with fresh ice from home.
@Old Web - See this is why it is not natural for me to think in terms of putting water in an ice tray. I just confirmed with the DW, that we don't have ice trays; so I can't conduct that experiment as stated in prior posts with water in an ice tray
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05-05-2021, 06:13 PM
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#35
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: New Mexico
Posts: 5
THOR #17556
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Make sure that your RV is somewhat level. I plug my 30 amp cord into a 20 amp home receptacle with a 110 adapter. Just don't run anthing else, TV, AC, Micro etc. No problems
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05-05-2021, 07:03 PM
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#36
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,372
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walygator
Make sure that your RV is somewhat level. I plug my 30 amp cord into a 20 amp home receptacle with a 110 adapter. Just don't run anthing else, TV, AC, Micro etc. No problems
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110 Adapter? Both 30 Amp RV and 20 Amp house receptacles are 120 VAC (110 Volts)
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05-05-2021, 07:06 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Ace 33.1
State: Illinois
Posts: 1,266
THOR #20274
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inlyzbldcj
Getting ready for a trip and want to know what is the best way to plug my thor hurricane 34J into my house current so I can cool off the fridge before a trip for water and soft drinks....can I run my 50amp cord to an adapter that will plug into my extension cord from my garage, or, do I need to plug in the 50 to 30amp adapter then to the 30amp to 110 adapter? Or should I just turn on the generator and inverter for the fridge for a couple hours before we leave to cool it off.
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I do that all the time, I plug in a 12 inch 50 to 15 amp pigtail and a 12 gauge cord to the house to get the fridge cold. I also turn on the propane in case the electric fails. I also picked up a 30--15 amp to 50 amp, it's two cables to 50 amp it will give you 45 amps in a campground that doesn't have a 50 amp plug. I haven't tried it yet to see if I can run both ac units. They say it won't work if the post has a GFCI.
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05-05-2021, 08:08 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inlyzbldcj
Getting ready for a trip and want to know what is the best way to plug my thor hurricane 34J into my house current so I can cool off the fridge before a trip for water and soft drinks....can I run my 50amp cord to an adapter that will plug into my extension cord from my garage, or, do I need to plug in the 50 to 30amp adapter then to the 30amp to 110 adapter? Or should I just turn on the generator and inverter for the fridge for a couple hours before we leave to cool it off.
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Let's get the language correct. 50 amp is 240 volts. 30 amp is 120 volts. There is no 110 volts anymore. The adapters are called dog bones.
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05-05-2021, 08:12 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Johnson
I do that all the time, I plug in a 12 inch 50 to 15 amp pigtail and a 12 gauge cord to the house to get the fridge cold. I also turn on the propane in case the electric fails. I also picked up a 30--15 amp to 50 amp, it's two cables to 50 amp it will give you 45 amps in a campground that doesn't have a 50 amp plug. I haven't tried it yet to see if I can run both ac units. They say it won't work if the post has a GFCI.
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What they say is correct. GFI can not share a neutral. GFI reads hot out and neutral return. Send it back.
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05-05-2021, 09:44 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Ace 33.1
State: Illinois
Posts: 1,266
THOR #20274
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
What they say is correct. GFI can not share a neutral. GFI reads hot out and neutral return. Send it back.
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I think you're right, I just tried it at the campground. Or I could cut the ground off (lol)
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