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04-30-2021, 03:33 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Arizona
Posts: 139
THOR #22044
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Plugging into house current
Getting ready for a trip and want to know what is the best way to plug my thor hurricane 34J into my house current so I can cool off the fridge before a trip for water and soft drinks....can I run my 50amp cord to an adapter that will plug into my extension cord from my garage, or, do I need to plug in the 50 to 30amp adapter then to the 30amp to 110 adapter? Or should I just turn on the generator and inverter for the fridge for a couple hours before we leave to cool it off.
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04-30-2021, 03:38 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: XG 32 Omni
State: Missouri
Posts: 842
THOR #4243
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I would just do the 50-30-110 adapter, I have done that several times with no issue.
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04-30-2021, 03:42 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,227
THOR #13362
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I regularly plug into a 15amp circuit in my garage
I use a standard “30amp to 15amp” plug.
You can reduce from 50 to 15 if you desire.
But just be aware that you can’t power much of anything from a 15amp circuit. Especially if you add standard extension cords to the line.
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04-30-2021, 03:56 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,778
THOR #1469
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Some RVs do not like being plugged into a GFCI protected circuit
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04-30-2021, 04:01 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Arizona
Posts: 139
THOR #22044
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50amp breaker
I have a 50amp breaker installed for my hot tub....could I also get a plug in and another 50amp breaker put in the box for just that plug? I mean is that possible? So, it would be like I was plugging into shore power at a park.
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04-30-2021, 09:58 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Aria
State: New Jersey
Posts: 104
THOR #17864
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I had a 50 amp done that at my house and its really convenient. Just make sure that you electrician knows that this is going to an RV. It's really a split 120V service. I have heard stories of electricians mistakenly wiring it as 240V.
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04-30-2021, 10:07 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2011 FW Hurricane 33T
State: England
Posts: 1,296
THOR #16471
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inlyzbldcj
I have a 50amp breaker installed for my hot tub....could I also get a plug in and another 50amp breaker put in the box for just that plug? I mean is that possible? So, it would be like I was plugging into shore power at a park.
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Why do I feel that you are asking if you can connect to the hot tub circuit? No you cannot do that, but yes you can wire in your own RV 50A receptacle from the main breaker panel... if there is room in it for the breaker. As mentioned by Newf026, it has to be a 120/240 circuit.
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04-30-2021, 11:15 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,382
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Newf026
I had a 50 amp done that at my house and its really convenient. Just make sure that you electrician knows that this is going to an RV. It's really a split 120V service. I have heard stories of electricians mistakenly wiring it as 240V.
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Because it is 240 VAC service. The problem is ignorant people (some electricians resemble that remark) that wire an RV 30 amp 120 VAC plug for 240 VAC.
An RV 50 amp 240 VAC service is a STANDARD configuration used by many 240 VAC appliances.
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04-30-2021, 11:41 AM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Aren't there any "50 to 20" adapters out there?
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04-30-2021, 12:38 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: S.O.B.
State: Florida
Posts: 684
THOR #14543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Aren't there any "50 to 20" adapters out there?
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Yep.
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04-30-2021, 12:38 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Missouri
Posts: 2,327
THOR #6903
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It is 240v for 50 amp
The confusion is over 30 amp services
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Originally Posted by Newf026
I had a 50 amp done that at my house and its really convenient. Just make sure that you electrician knows that this is going to an RV. It's really a split 120V service. I have heard stories of electricians mistakenly wiring it as 240V.
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04-30-2021, 12:40 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Missouri
Posts: 2,327
THOR #6903
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Absolutely
My newer welders, car charger, hot tub and so on all have the same receptacles
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Originally Posted by 16ACE27
Because it is 240 VAC service. The problem is ignorant people (some electricians resemble that remark) that wire an RV 30 amp 120 VAC plug for 240 VAC.
An RV 50 amp 240 VAC service is a STANDARD configuration used by many 240 VAC appliances.
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04-30-2021, 12:56 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lwmcguire
Absolutely
My newer welders, car charger, hot tub and so on all have the same receptacles
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Some car chargers use the 14-50 plug like RVs do; sometimes the electrician installs something like a 6-50 which doesn't have the neutral and thus won't work for a 50a RV (or a 30a for that matter).
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04-30-2021, 12:59 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Popfla
Yep.
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That's what the O.P. needs...
(I like to keep things as simple as possible...)
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04-30-2021, 02:51 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,778
THOR #1469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inlyzbldcj
I have a 50amp breaker installed for my hot tub....could I also get a plug in and another 50amp breaker put in the box for just that plug? I mean is that possible? So, it would be like I was plugging into shore power at a park.
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Yes you can get another 50 amp breaker and plug installed.
At the sticks and bricks we have a spa and it runs on 220 50 amp. We also had a 30 amp plug installed when we bought a class c a number of years ago which was a mistake because I then had that changed to 50 amp for the Challenger and everything except the metal box had to be changed. Should have went 50 amp to begin with.
If you have the resources get an electrician to install an RV 50 amp plug. You'll be happier in the long run.
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US Army (Ret)
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04-30-2021, 04:06 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 33.6
State: California
Posts: 33
THOR #23007
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In the meantime - 50-30-110, turn on fridge, cool down drinks, unplug and enjoy the trip.....
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04-30-2021, 05:26 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Freedom Elite 28H
State: Florida
Posts: 203
THOR #1929
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We are pretty fortunate. Our RV is on the side of our house and I have 30 amp service to it. I live in Florida and I have my AC ON all the time set at 75. Before camping turn the fridge on couple iof days before load up. When we get back from a trip. AC on fridge on. Take our time unloading.
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04-30-2021, 05:52 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Missouri
Posts: 2,327
THOR #6903
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Everything varies a bit by local code interpretation
All my newer high amp equipment has 4 prong plugs and should have a ground, of course they work fine without
Given I have been around a long time I survived as did everyone back in the day without ground wires
Most folks get into trouble trying to run their RV on a 15-20 amp outlet combined with a 14-16 gauge extension
If you need an extension use 10 gauge or larger
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Originally Posted by JamieGeek
Some car chargers use the 14-50 plug like RVs do; sometimes the electrician installs something like a 6-50 which doesn't have the neutral and thus won't work for a 50a RV (or a 30a for that matter).
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04-30-2021, 06:29 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Freedom Elite 28H
State: Florida
Posts: 203
THOR #1929
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My 30 amp service is with the 3 prong RV plug. 10 gauge wire with its own 30 amp breaker.
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05-01-2021, 02:06 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Alabama
Posts: 19
THOR #22656
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This may help. You will need a 3 conductor with a ground to wire an RV 50 amp circuit. Most strictly 240V circuits (hot tubs, home AC’s, etc) have 2 conductor with a ground. Since RV’s are 120V, you need 3 conductors (2 hot wires and one neutral wire) along with a ground so your RV will have 2- 120V circuits. This is similar to your power panel on your home, each side of your panel is 120V (but 180 degree out of phase with each other).
If you measure each hot wire to the neutral it will read 120V, if you measure across the hot wires it will read 240V
It is important if you install a 4 wire 50A receptacle to assure the wires are landed in the correct location to avoid having one of the hot wires landed where the neutral goes which would light one of the 120V sides with 240V.
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