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06-21-2018, 11:00 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1 KC's Big Box
State: Kansas
Posts: 2,171
THOR #3510
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Originally Posted by Kev
I-4 is a nightmare now. That is where my windshield on the Vegas got cracked.
We do the same when camping up in the Ocala area. Longer ride but much less stressful. Glad you are ok.
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Thank you .. we come down from K.C. area at least once a year to see family in Lakeland...we have come down about every country road from I-10 to Lakeland...and as you know...some are very sloooow ! We are headed that direction next week..and will stay a couple nights at Carabelle which will give us a bit of a different route down...and may cut across so we don't use I-4 !
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2001 Scamp 13'
'KC's Little Box'
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06-21-2018, 11:14 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Originally Posted by Djrmar6
Hello, we are new at RVing. Just bought our first one in January. 2015 Thor Vegas 24.1. We've taken one long trip and a couple short. Short trips are Mostly to dealer for some warranty work. In reading this thread and from our few trips it seems we might need to install stabilizers. Can you give us an idea of cost. It looks like majority likes safe t plus. Any feed back greatly appreciated.
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If I recall correctly I paid about $375 for my Safe T Plus with its installation kit for my E450 Class C. I installed it myself (easy) but I think I remember CW wanted about $350 to install. Perhaps a bit less if your alignment place will do it for you. I’m glad I purchased it but I didn’t personally see much change in handling. I installed a Roadmaster on my class A because it was cheaper and seemed to be more robustly made (to my uneducated eyes)
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06-22-2018, 02:59 AM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Ace 30.4
State: Louisiana
Posts: 41
THOR #9620
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If F53 chassis consider the sway bar adjustment and alignment first, I felt no need for stabilizer after sway bar adjustment (CHF). Huge improvement.
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06-25-2018, 02:57 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Alabama
Posts: 119
THOR #12091
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Originally Posted by Jerry B.
Trying to decide whether to go with the Safety Plus or Road Master. Any input is appreciated thanks.
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I installed the Roadmaster and it works great!
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06-25-2018, 03:02 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport
State: Florida
Posts: 746
THOR #3918
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Originally Posted by vkb
Thank you .. we come down from K.C. area at least once a year to see family in Lakeland...we have come down about every country road from I-10 to Lakeland...and as you know...some are very sloooow ! We are headed that direction next week..and will stay a couple nights at Carabelle which will give us a bit of a different route down...and may cut across so we don't use I-4 !
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Sounds like a smart idea. BTW we live in Lakeland.
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06-25-2018, 03:56 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: A.C.E. 29.2
State: Tennessee
Posts: 68
THOR #10300
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FYI -- the Safe-T-Plus and its Roadmaster counterpart are primarily for safety should you encounter a blow out, etc. as these steering stabilizers assist steering/directional control when a front tire/wheel fails/goes off the road/hits significantly deteriorated road surface, etc.. It usually adds some stability to the coach, but not much. Proper tire pressure and alignment are a must for drivability and handling. If further improvements are desired, heavy duty front and rear sway bars would probably be next followed by SumoSprings or similar products. Make any improvements incrementally before going the next step as it may be unnecessary. Further, most all suspension related enhancements add weight, which should be taken into account as well. Note: the cheap handling fix (CHF) noted in these forums only apply to the Ford F53 chassis I believe.
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COL, USA, Retired
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06-25-2018, 07:36 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 32.1
State: Michigan
Posts: 85
THOR #11442
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On my ACE 32.1 I went with the Roadmaster stabilizer, larger front swaybar and additional rear swaybar. Both steering tires have the Tyron system installed. It's much easier to control now.
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06-30-2018, 03:12 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 29M
State: Texas
Posts: 2,712
THOR #11781
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Went with the Saf T Plus on my Hurricane. It improved the drivability on poor roads but on really bad roads I don't think it does anything.
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2018 Hurricane 29M
CHF, Saf-T-Plus, SumoSprings
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07-03-2018, 12:35 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1 KC's Big Box
State: Kansas
Posts: 2,171
THOR #3510
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Originally Posted by Lt Keefer
Went with the Saf T Plus on my Hurricane. It improved the drivability on poor roads but on really bad roads I don't think it does anything.
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I know you are on a different frame than our Axis .. however Sumo Springs makes a bump stop spring replacement for your frame...I have, only, replaced my bump stops with the Sumo, front and back...it greatly improved the handling and response to bumps and dips. If interested, go to the Sumo Spring website...not a reseller...they have a page on the site which tells you exactly, which spring you need for your unit. … and install info.
Ron n Kay
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2001 Scamp 13'
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07-03-2018, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 29M
State: Texas
Posts: 2,712
THOR #11781
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vkb, the sumos are my next upgrade.
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2018 Hurricane 29M
CHF, Saf-T-Plus, SumoSprings
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07-03-2018, 08:16 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 22FE
State: Washington
Posts: 270
THOR #8606
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Unlike the factory bump stops, are the Sumo Springs installed under pressure on them?
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07-03-2018, 08:44 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 29M
State: Louisiana
Posts: 1
THOR #10248
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Installed the Safe T Plus on my 2018 Hurricane 29M. Noticeable difference in tracking on the interstate, definitely takes less effort to steer. Received the model numbers from Safe T Plus website, bought on Amazon.com.
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07-03-2018, 09:54 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Keefer
vkb, the sumos are my next upgrade.
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So, I’ve been driving my 29 ft F53 class A for only about 4000 miles. I’ve installed a Roadmaster steering stabilizer for emergencies but I have no real complaints with handling. Our most recent trip included some really bad roads though and I’m thinking the ride could use some improvement! Sumos on all four corners is pretty salty. I gather y’all think it’s worth it though??
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07-03-2018, 11:28 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Alabama
Posts: 119
THOR #12091
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vkb
I know you are on a different frame than our Axis .. however Sumo Springs makes a bump stop spring replacement for your frame...I have, only, replaced my bump stops with the Sumo, front and back...it greatly improved the handling and response to bumps and dips. If interested, go to the Sumo Spring website...not a reseller...they have a page on the site which tells you exactly, which spring you need for your unit. … and install info.
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Thanks for the info. So far I’m really happy with the handling improvements. The thing I like so much about the Roadmaster Steering Stabilizer is that it tighten up the steering and tames the tendency to drift. It also helps to cut down on fatigue and white knuckling. That heavy duty spring is always trying to maintain its neutral position. I’ll read up on the Sumos and see if that’s something I want to do. Safe travels!
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07-05-2018, 08:46 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Ace 30.4
State: Missouri
Posts: 2
THOR #12214
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Just added the Roadmaster stabilizer and the Roadmaster front swaybar... very happy..took it on a 2100 mile trip and the wander and sway are alot less noticeable. Ordered the rear swaybar as well but it was on backorder from etrailer.com... hope to get it on before the next trip.
Generic question..is there a way to search the forum on exact models? I have an Ace 30.4..would love to see what others are asking so I dont ask the same questions.
thanks
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07-05-2018, 10:26 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31S
State: Texas
Posts: 4,177
THOR #6411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve76
Unlike the factory bump stops, are the Sumo Springs installed under pressure on them?
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The front is installed so that it is under a little pressure with the coach unloaded. If you load to five hundred pounds in each front spring, the Sumos will load about 2" and leave the coach about higher than without the Sumos. Super Springs sizes the Sumos for each coach's max gross weight so that the Sumos are about midway in their total travel when each axle is at its rated carrying load. About the same in the rear except the installer can vary the static loading of the rear Sumos by the way they are mounted. The front mounting is fixed. The increased spring rate does help with sway. The Sumos resist over extension with the same rate used in compression.
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2016 Hurricane 31S
1961 Rampside in tow
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07-07-2018, 06:35 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 29M
State: British Columbia
Posts: 22
THOR #10751
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RoadMaster “all around” and then more!
He went with RoadMaster suspension (front and rear) and steering. On our Thor Hurricane 29M. It handles like a new machine!! We also added Sumosprings in the rear as we carry a Harley-Davidson on the back and needed the suspension boost. We are extremely pleased with the overall upgrade. The RV handles turns, winds and higher speeds with ease and stuff onboard stay put!
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07-07-2018, 06:51 PM
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#38
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 7
THOR #11043
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Stabilizer envy
My greatest fear are those lousy trucks and the vacuum they create when they pass...and getting slammed into something. It's pure vehicular assault. I've been looking high and low for a steering stabilizer..no luck for MB Sprinter 3500. They aren't made since there's limited room I am going to install a Roadmaster sway bar stabilizer kit which will work in conjunction with the factory sway bar. Maybe a couple of Sumo stops. We'll see how that works out.
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07-07-2018, 07:34 PM
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#39
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 18
THOR #7642
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Heard goood things about Safety plus
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07-07-2018, 08:15 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.2
State: Arizona
Posts: 56
THOR #6311
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Better late than never. I purchased a Stearsafe made in New Mexico after a very bad trip in the wind. It was blowing when I went in for the install and it was still blowing when I left 1/2 hour later. The difference was day and night, I went in with white knuckles and was driving with one hand soon after leaving their garage.
Steersafe installed the unit at no extra charge and said anytime I came through Demming, NM stop in and they will inspect and readjust the unit if it needs it at no charge.
That was last year and my 2017 Vegas 25.2 is still handing beautiful this year. If you live near Demming you might want to check it out. The install is very simple but they'll do it at no extra charge.
I'm sure they all probably work about the same, good luck with what ever you buy it has to be an improvement from the standard Vegas handling.
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