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08-20-2018, 02:28 PM
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#41
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 35SF
State: Missouri
Posts: 738
THOR #2020
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Originally Posted by JamieGeek
It might be a bit easier for Gritz if someone who tows 4-down listed out the items that are needed without recommending a product. Something like this:
What you need to tow 4-down: - Tow bar from coach to car
- Baseplate to connect tow bar to car
- Brake system in the car to actuate the car's brakes
- Brakelight wiring/setup to light the brakelights on the car or additional lights
- etc.
Then given that list differing products can be discussed for each piece of the puzzle.
Just a thought...
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I think you just did that Jamie.
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08-20-2018, 02:30 PM
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#42
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: A.C.E. 29.3
State: Florida
Posts: 23
THOR #8483
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We went through the same dilemma and analysis. Ended up also buying a used 2015 Fiat 500 manual ($8500), along with someone's used Blue Ox tow bar and RVi2 brake system ($500 off of Craig's List). Couldn't be happier! The Fiat is a ball to drive and tows like nothing is back there. The hook/unhook is super quick and effortless. I watch other forms of towing at the campgrounds and truly wonder why people would bother with any other way....
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08-20-2018, 02:32 PM
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#43
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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I will look into it and do research and will start looking at other's systems as we travel and wear them out with questions. If you see someone crawling all over your toad at rest area...just holler..."what's up Gritz??"
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Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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08-20-2018, 02:34 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35C
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,132
THOR #3761
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieGeek
In contrast we dolly tow: - Brakes are on the dolly
- Just about any FWD car can be towed (I've even towed one that said not to and it was fine LOL)
- No modifications to the car
- Only cost is the dolly (if you want you can add some brake lights to the rear of the car)
- "Finding a place to store the dolly" is a non-issue: It slides under the rear of the coach (in Bob's case it can hide under the ramp)
For all that I get a 15-20 minute hook up instead of the easy two pins and a plug. I'm sure at some point I'll get tired of the dolly as I won't be as barely limber as I am now; at that point I may start towing 4-down or I won't be camping anymore so...I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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That is us today, we dolly tow (with surge brakes on the dolly.) Having done both, a dolly isn't THAT much more work and there are many more vehicles that can be towed. We are relatively young and don't mind the dolly. As you said, it stores under the rear of the RV when not in use. Nothing else to add to either the car being towed or the dolly itself.
If I was going to tow 4 down, it would be a Jeep Wrangler.
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2016 Thor Hurricane 35C with pups Piper and Annabelle
2013 Ford Fiesta toad
FMCA - F457085
Blog - https://traversity.us
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08-20-2018, 02:34 PM
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#45
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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Scubes3...did I meet you briefly at the rest area south of Dothan, AL about a month or so ago??? We discussed your turn signal cameras??? If not you, there was a guy with identical setup!!!
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Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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08-20-2018, 03:24 PM
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#46
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: A.C.E. 29.3
State: Florida
Posts: 23
THOR #8483
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
Scubes3...did I meet you briefly at the rest area south of Dothan, AL about a month or so ago??? We discussed your turn signal cameras??? If not you, there was a guy with identical setup!!!
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Must be someone else (good minds think alike?). BTW, that pic was at a reststop in SC if I recall, enroute from FL to NJ via the I81 Western loop around D. C.
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08-20-2018, 04:31 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Challenger 37KT
State: Michigan
Posts: 282
THOR #2628
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What does the Manual say for each one, second how much can you tow? Not what the RV hitch is rated for. Combined Gross Vehicle weight minus Gross Vehicle Weight. So get your rig weights with everything your going to travel with do the math.
KC
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Progressive Industry EMS-HW50C, Winegard Trav'ler Sat dish, Magnashades, 5 star tuner, lots of indirect lighting.
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08-20-2018, 04:40 PM
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#48
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Scubes3,
I'll bet that little Fiat is working hard: pushing you up the hills!
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-20-2018, 05:34 PM
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#49
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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I can tow the fire out of hell...I just need to get familiar and comfortable with the toad systems to see if that's my cup of tea.
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Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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08-20-2018, 05:45 PM
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#50
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I'm looking at a 2015 Smart, that only has about 20,000 miles on it...
It's cheap enough...
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-20-2018, 05:49 PM
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#51
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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I would have already had that...already got the small trailer for it...but wife said she wouldn't be caught dead in it and there's no room for the dogs...none. It's like you and the bride sitting in the bathtub sideways. I laughed at myself picturing that!!!
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Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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08-20-2018, 06:09 PM
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#52
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I can dig the idea of sharing the bathtub: just not with the dog, and definitely not sitting sideways!
Di you ever see what happens when you fart in a Smart?
http://www.thorforums.com/forums/att...1&d=1534788630
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-20-2018, 06:17 PM
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#53
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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You could go a little bigger than the Smart and get a 500; might have room for a small dog then
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08-20-2018, 06:20 PM
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#54
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Can you tow the automatic transmission (if they make one...) equipped models with four down?
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-20-2018, 06:23 PM
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#55
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Can you tow the automatic transmission (if they make one...) equipped models with four down?
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Guess not, need a manual:
https://www.etrailer.com/question-265553.html
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08-20-2018, 06:29 PM
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#56
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Thanks!
The "Slushbox Tranny" lets the Missus help out with the driving.
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-20-2018, 07:14 PM
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#57
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau Super C Bunkhouse
State: Iowa
Posts: 8
THOR #9451
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Tow Vehicle
We tow a 2014 Chevrolet Sonic. It is an automatic and can be flat-towed by simply turning the key on and leaving it in neutral. No modification to drive train needed. I installed a kill switch to disable all electrical when towing, so no dead battery upon arrival. And a bonus...because electric is disabled, no mileage is added to car.
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10-12-2018, 12:30 PM
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#58
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Aria 4000
State: Texas
Posts: 6
THOR #13402
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Will I need any type of braking system on a 2013 Jeep Wrangler, that I plan on flat towing?
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10-12-2018, 01:27 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MENEE24
Will I need any type of braking system on a 2013 Jeep Wrangler, that I plan on flat towing?
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Yes. Absolutely essential. For safety’s sake and to be legal in most states. The good news it’s easy. The bad news is that it’s somewhat expensive.
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10-12-2018, 02:38 PM
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#60
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Quantum RS26
State: Indiana
Posts: 288
THOR #10823
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"Will I need any type of braking system on a 2013 Jeep Wrangler, that I plan on flat towing?"
Absolutely!
And the first time someone slams on the brakes ahead of you to stop for a yellow light you will be very very glad you have them. Yes, a good system can be expensive, so was your coach. Don't cheap out and put it, and others, at risk.
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