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10-04-2021, 11:45 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.6
State: New Mexico
Posts: 5,114
THOR #20220
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Are we safe with truckers now?
These California High Schoolers Are Training to Drive 18-Wheelers
These California High Schoolers Are Training to Drive 18-Wheelers. https://report.drudgenow.com/article...1&pn=Anonymous
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10-05-2021, 12:10 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,326
THOR #7035
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Can't be any worse than some of the current "Professional Drivers."
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2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
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10-05-2021, 12:16 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: A.C.E. 27.2
State: Indiana
Posts: 1,874
THOR #14698
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Originally Posted by 16ACE27
Can't be any worse than some of the current "Professional Drivers."
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After a month on the road and 3700 miles I totally agree!
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Toad 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
Roadmaster Falcon All Terrain Towbar
Roadmaster Invisibrake
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10-05-2021, 12:16 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 36.1
State: Tennessee
Posts: 440
THOR #11607
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Originally Posted by MJC62
After a month on the road and 3700 miles I totally agree!
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Amen!
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2014 Palazzo 36.1, Cummins ISB 6.7 300hp, Allison 2500
TOAD 2008 Jeep Rubicon 4x4, Blue Ox Avail tow bar, RVibrake 3
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10-05-2021, 12:41 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 24F
State: Arizona
Posts: 116
THOR #20184
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3 weeks on the road and almost 4000 miles. Retired truck driver. The brotherhood of the road is gone. No consideration for anyone else on the road, avoided numerous accidents with beserk truck drivers all over the road and not able to hold their lane. Sigh, it sure is a shame. I miss the older days!
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10-05-2021, 01:44 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 24F
State: Ohio
Posts: 4,149
THOR #16721
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Not a professional driver... but I remember back a LONG time ago this stupid 16 year old kid (who just got his driver's license) took the car out to the store on Christmas Eve. It stalled at an intersection... that "stupid kid" didn't check the fuel gauge before leaving home. ... Don't ask how I know this.
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10-05-2021, 04:03 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2011 FW Hurricane 33T
State: England
Posts: 1,295
THOR #16471
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Originally Posted by Scubawise
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Why would you worry about H.S. students? Now who do you think was in charge of the teachers that were teaching these “new drivers” before they got in the rigs?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bad%20high...ncipals&ia=web
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10-05-2021, 01:01 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,767
THOR #1469
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Hate to burst a bubble but I believe the elderly have more issues driving than teenagers. I also tend to experience more less than stellar folks driving motorhomes or pulling travel trailers and fifth wheels than I do driving trucks.
If a teenager is old enough to vote or to die for their country they are definitely old enough to drive a truck or fly a plane for that matter.
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10-05-2021, 01:57 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2011 FW Hurricane 33T
State: England
Posts: 1,295
THOR #16471
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Originally Posted by EA37TS
Hate to burst a bubble but I believe the elderly have more issues driving than teenagers. I also tend to experience more less than stellar folks driving motorhomes or pulling travel trailers and fifth wheels than I do driving trucks.
If a teenager is old enough to vote or to die for their country they are definitely old enough to drive a truck or fly a plane for that matter.
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Hear, hear!
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10-05-2021, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 24F
State: Ohio
Posts: 4,149
THOR #16721
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Every time I'm out on the road/streets I witness countless (they usually appear to be well under 40 years old) paying more attention to their mobile device than eyes on the road. They stop at a red light and text/check Facebook, etc. It's a plague - kids addicted to social media driving in traffic. DO IT AT HOME! The daughter of a prominent news anchor in Columbus Ohio was killed this way several years back - she was texting.
I picked up a load of firewood this past weekend - about 2,000 pounds. I was navigating hilly, winding 2-lane roads with many blind crests averaging 45 - 50mph. I had a kid in a beater tailgating me most of the way... I even slowed in passing zones to let them pass... no dice! CLUELESS!! Had a deer ran across the road in front of me? To be fair, I had a 70+ year old lady take out my mailbox last year.
And following too closely... talk about a pandemic! Three car lengths OR LESS at 70mph? I get this in the motorhome all the time. I simply allow DOUBLE the distance in front of me to make up for the mindless idiot behind me. Driving up Interstate 71 through the middle of Columbus Ohio is like playing Russian Roulette - kids darting in and out of heavy traffic across four lanes to an exit!
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An analysis of the latest federal fatal traffic crash data found that a portion of Interstate 71 in Columbus ranked as the deadliest 5-mile stretch of roadway in Ohio during a three-year period.
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A typical "older" driver generally drives slower - probably more cautious because of worse vision and slower reflexes. AND - they usually have learned from experience the hazards of "driving like you're bulletproof".
FROM AAA:
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The crash rate of drivers ages 16-17 years was nearly double that of drivers ages 18-19 and approximately 4.5 times that of drivers ages 30-39, 40-49, and 50-59 (Table 1). Drivers ages 60-69 had the lowest crash rate.
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Insurance companies charge younger drivers more for a reason. They're inexperienced, and young male drivers are EXTREME risk takers before their mid-twenties. Ever see a 20 year old young lady drag racing on the freeway? Ever see a female motorcycle driver pass traffic at 80mph in a 45mph zone?
I am NOT in favor of "banning" mobile phones, or anything else for that matter. What I AM in favor of is MUCH stiffer penalties for IMPROPER USE - or ANY type of distracted driving... although it's nearly always a mobile device.
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10-05-2021, 03:09 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Aria 3401
State: Washington
Posts: 847
THOR #22245
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EA37TS
Hate to burst a bubble but I believe the elderly have more issues driving than teenagers. I also tend to experience more less than stellar folks driving motorhomes or pulling travel trailers and fifth wheels than I do driving trucks.
If a teenager is old enough to vote or to die for their country they are definitely old enough to drive a truck or fly a plane for that matter.
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Agree, I have no issue with truckers. I actually now have a better understanding of some of their techniques driving a momentum rig. It is a PITA following them on I 5 through central California elephant races. I also have a friend that is a trucker that provided me with a lot of tips and tricks prior to us buying our RV.
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2021 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk - toad
2010 Porsche Boxster(trailered)
Retired US Navy Corpsman HMC(SW)(FMF)
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10-09-2021, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport 35M
State: Michigan
Posts: 101
THOR #7496
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I'm with you man, drove for several years. Glad I got out of it when I did.
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10-09-2021, 06:44 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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A lot of the drama you will experience negotiating other vehicles has to do with how you are driving. I've not had any major issues with truckers. I run 64 and keep well aware of whats changing in front and behind me as vehicles approach. The respect you show other drivers (truckers included) will directly influence the respect they have for you.
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Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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10-09-2021, 07:17 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.6
State: New Mexico
Posts: 5,114
THOR #20220
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
A lot of the drama you will experience negotiating other vehicles has to do with how you are driving. I've not had any major issues with truckers. I run 64 and keep well aware of whats changing in front and behind me as vehicles approach. The respect you show other drivers (truckers included) will directly influence the respect they have for you.
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Agree!
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Lora & George. Golden Retriever & Multi-Gen Australian labradoodle & new ALD in March. Happy Campers!! E Biking, Hiking, Tennis, Scuba,Fishing,Cross Country Skiing, Snowshoeing. Retired H.S. Principal, Sr. IT Engineer, Life & Health Insurance Agent
"Today is a Gift and Why it is called the Present"
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10-09-2021, 07:44 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Arizona
Posts: 24
THOR #11915
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Driverless Trucks
This article from The Arizona Republic newspaper on July 2, 2020, explains the development of driverless trucks. The truck driver shortage is causing empty store shelves in many areas, so something has to change.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/mone...es/3281064001/
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10-09-2021, 10:47 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 2018 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 179
THOR #12484
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We will be reading more about this in the next year. Bank on it. 4500 miles in the last 6 weeks. Craziness, something has changed with the trucking community. I saw more trucks pulled off on the interstate side of the road for a rest than I’ve seen in 20 years. Not because rest areas were full but because they don’t know any better.
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10-09-2021, 10:49 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 25.4
State: California
Posts: 225
THOR #7440
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Think about all the 18 year olds who were Drafted and put behind the wheel of every vehicle the military had, crewed and maintained air craft and maned every kind of weapon system, I got a commercial license wile in high school, I worked for a equipment rental business, my employer was able to sign off on my ability to get behind the wheel of a small low bed, that was back in the 60s an thats all changed now. I did not have to do a drive test, only pass the written test, now you have to do a physical every 2 years and have endorsements for Air Brakes, more then one trailer, hazardous materials endorsement, school bus an ambulance, they also have to do a back ground check for the fuel truck and grease truck drivers, pass all that and you get your license.
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10-09-2021, 11:12 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 2018 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 179
THOR #12484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BASSMAN
Think about all the 18 year olds who were Drafted and put behind the wheel of every vehicle the military had, crewed and maintained air craft and maned every kind of weapon system, I got a commercial license wile in high school, I worked for a equipment rental business, my employer was able to sign off on my ability to get behind the wheel of a small low bed, that was back in the 60s an thats all changed now. I did not have to do a drive test, only pass the written test, now you have to do a physical every 2 years and have endorsements for Air Brakes, more then one trailer, hazardous materials endorsement, school bus an ambulance, they also have to do a back ground check for the fuel truck and grease truck drivers, pass all that and you get your license.
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I hear ya. After 25 years active duty I understand. Although they weren’t running on the interstate with families going to see gramma doing hop the next truck just because I can. We can re visit this in a year when the media makes it an issue after multiple fatalities. It’s coming. The trucking crisis makes it so.
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10-09-2021, 11:44 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 29M
State: Texas
Posts: 2,711
THOR #11781
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip500
3 weeks on the road and almost 4000 miles. Retired truck driver. The brotherhood of the road is gone. No consideration for anyone else on the road, avoided numerous accidents with beserk truck drivers all over the road and not able to hold their lane. Sigh, it sure is a shame. I miss the older days!
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I guess you mean the days when a trucker would run non-stop for days on speed and beer? The days with no DOT inspections and easily forged log books? I don't miss those days at all and at least these new drivers are being taught the basics and putting some miles under their belts. RV dealers sell these POS Thor products to anyone with a pulse and a good credit score. No thought on whether they can handle a 40 foot Class A or have enough truck to pull the rapidly falling apart trailer. Go back in time if you want to, but I stay right!
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2018 Hurricane 29M
CHF, Saf-T-Plus, SumoSprings
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10-09-2021, 11:58 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 2018 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 179
THOR #12484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Keefer
I guess you mean the days when a trucker would run non-stop for days on speed and beer? The days with no DOT inspections and easily forged log books? I don't miss those days at all and at least these new drivers are being taught the basics and putting some miles under their belts. RV dealers sell these POS Thor products to anyone with a pulse and a good credit score. No thought on whether they can handle a 40 foot Class A or have enough truck to pull the rapidly falling apart trailer. Go back in time if you want to, but I stay right!
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He may agree…But they were not 18 years old. Jeez, is this even a discussion. With an 18 year old it’s almost a given they will be involved in an accident. Maybe not their fault but something that could have been prevented….with more experience.
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