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04-22-2021, 05:18 PM
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#241
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 23TR
State: Arizona
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THOR #14425
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
In the long term: we're all dead anyway...
I refuse to live my life; while being afraid of dying.
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I am just now finding this board and trying to catch up, but this quote caught my eye. Three thumbs up! That's going on my gravestone....um....wait...
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04-22-2021, 05:21 PM
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#242
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 23TR
State: Arizona
Posts: 101
THOR #14425
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcr1010
Interesting that we never wore mask for the myriad of other flu strains.
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This is not an influenza virus. It is a coronavirus. The only thing the two have in common is the word "virus."
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Jim Speiser
Payson, AZ
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04-22-2021, 05:34 PM
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#243
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 23TR
State: Arizona
Posts: 101
THOR #14425
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldWEB
And no one was worried that there were 5,000-8,000 deaths a week from pneumonia caused by influenza during the annual flu seasons.
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Define "worried." Were that true, "no one" would get flu shots. Yet 193.8 million doses were distributed last year. -SOMEONE- sure is worried!
Mortality rate, influenza: 0.1%
Mortality rate, SARS-COV2: 1% (ten times higher)
Average annual influenza deaths in the US: 34,000-43,000
One-year death total, SARS-COV2: 490,000
Sorry for the truth "injection."
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Jim Speiser
Payson, AZ
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04-22-2021, 05:46 PM
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#244
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimSpy
I am just now finding this board and trying to catch up, but this quote caught my eye. Three thumbs up! That's going on my gravestone....um....wait...
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This is also a good choice...
https://www.thorforums.com/forums/at...1&d=1619113552
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"What: me worry?"
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04-22-2021, 08:41 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Alabama
Posts: 292
THOR #22687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimSpy
Define "worried." Were that true, "no one" would get flu shots. Yet 193.8 million doses were distributed last year. -SOMEONE- sure is worried!
Mortality rate, influenza: 0.1%
Mortality rate, SARS-COV2: 1% (ten times higher)
Average annual influenza deaths in the US: 34,000-43,000
One-year death total, SARS-COV2: 490,000
Sorry for the truth "injection."
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1% mortality rate means 99% survival rate. I'll take those odds. Put it all on red.
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04-22-2021, 08:54 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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So what is the mortality rate for the folks who get the shot?
(People who die from the shot...)
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04-22-2021, 09:08 PM
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#247
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 31L
State: Florida
Posts: 2,063
THOR #12189
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The Law of Statistics
You can make them look any way you want them to. Then you have to decide who you believe and why.
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04-22-2021, 09:29 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,117
THOR #7035
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Numbers are fun!
According to Johns Hopkins numbers as of today almost 10% of the US population has had COVID. Almost 600,000 people in the US have died from it. That would mean you have a 2% mortality rate if you get infected. But of the general US population, only .2% have died from the pandemic.
But worldwide only .03% of the population has died from this pandemic.
Yet today, on the Today show, the CDC director couldn't directly answer this simple (but stupid, IMHO question): "If you are outside and not around anyone do you still need to wear a mask?"
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2016 ACE 27.1
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04-22-2021, 10:32 PM
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#249
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
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State: New York
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THOR #8860
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I almost thought that she was going to say, "I'll circle back to uo on,that one."
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04-22-2021, 10:48 PM
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Senior Member
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THOR #12189
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
Numbers are fun!
According to Johns Hopkins numbers as of today almost 10% of the US population has had COVID. Almost 600,000 people in the US have died from it. That would mean you have a 2% mortality rate if you get infected. But of the general US population, only .2% have died from the pandemic.
But worldwide only .03% of the population has died from this pandemic.
Yet today, on the Today show, the CDC director couldn't directly answer this simple (but stupid, IMHO question): "If you are outside and not around anyone do you still need to wear a mask?"
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I prefer calculus but linear and matrix math can be entertaining. And don;t get me started on quantum physics.
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04-23-2021, 07:37 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 23TR
State: Arizona
Posts: 101
THOR #14425
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
So what is the mortality rate for the folks who get the shot?
(People who die from the shot...)
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I think one person who got a blood clot from the J & J vaccine may have died.
Aside from that, I have not heard of any deaths directly attributed to any of the vaccines. Me, I'll take those odds.
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Payson, AZ
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04-23-2021, 07:41 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 23TR
State: Arizona
Posts: 101
THOR #14425
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Breeze
You can make them look any way you want them to. Then you have to decide who you believe and why.
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For me, that comes down to a choice between people who have devoted their entire lives to medical science and curing people, guys like Fauci, who is the most respected man in his field, and some anonymous folks on the Internet, most of whom are well-meaning, but badly misinformed.
Pretty cut-and-dried, I'd say.
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Payson, AZ
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04-23-2021, 07:50 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 23TR
State: Arizona
Posts: 101
THOR #14425
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
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Well, here's some more fun: That's the average mortality rate through the entire pandemic. It started out at just under 5%, and has worked its way down to 1% currently, because of the advances made in treatment of critical cases. The healthcare providers learned on the job how to mitigate the most egregious symptoms, resulting in a reduction of deaths.
As to wearing masks outdoors....it's complicated. Obviously no, you don't need to wear one outside with no one around. But they don't want to say that too loudly, because they don't want to take the slightest chance of sounding like the emergency is over and done with. It's not. It's getting better by the day, but we're far from being out of the woods yet.
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Payson, AZ
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04-23-2021, 12:09 PM
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#254
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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We are here at the Center: waiting for the second stabbing right now...
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04-23-2021, 02:24 PM
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#255
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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...Back at work, and waiting for all of the fun to start...
The process went much smoother and quicker this time.
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Good Sam Member 843599689
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04-23-2021, 02:25 PM
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#256
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,726
THOR #1469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
...Back at work, and waiting for all of the fun to start...
The process went much smoother and quicker this time.
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Good luck. Hopefully you'll have no side effects.
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US Army (Ret)
2020 Entegra Accolade 37TS
2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk (Toad)
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04-23-2021, 02:26 PM
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#257
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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04-23-2021, 02:35 PM
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#258
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,883
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimSpy
I think one person who got a blood clot from the J & J vaccine may have died.
Aside from that, I have not heard of any deaths directly attributed to any of the vaccines. Me, I'll take those odds.
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And apparently all of the blood clot sufferers were women on birth control meds or hormone replacement - which have blood clot issues anyway. Which is. It to say anyone should ignore the concern, but the risk is very small for all of us.
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04-23-2021, 02:41 PM
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#259
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,883
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimSpy
For me, that comes down to a choice between people who have devoted their entire lives to medical science and curing people, guys like Fauci, who is the most respected man in his field, and some anonymous folks on the Internet, most of whom are well-meaning, but badly misinformed.
Pretty cut-and-dried, I'd say.
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I worked my entire career as a hospital executive and I know many excellent physicians who disagree with almost everything Dr. F says. There are risks and rewards for every singe decision we make every single day. All you can do is try to do things that make sense to you personally. I have a friend who literally hasn’t left the house in a year out of fear over COVID except maybe to get his shots in January. I think that’s crazy but I respect his decision and he’s still my friend. I hope to see him again one day!
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04-23-2021, 02:47 PM
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#260
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,117
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete'sMH
I worked my entire career as a hospital executive and I know many excellent physicians who disagree with almost everything Dr. F says.
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Would that be wind vane Dr. F? Changes his recommendations every time the wind changes direction?
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