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Old 03-30-2020, 04:13 PM   #1
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FDA gives anti-malaria drugs emergency approval to treat COVID-19

Light at the end of the SD tunnel?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/corona...ry?id=69867398

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Old 03-30-2020, 04:17 PM   #2
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That'd be great if they work, but there isn't any evidence that they work--and worse:
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/hyd...rsus-covid-19/
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Old 03-30-2020, 04:23 PM   #3
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Might go back to the 'right to try'?

You know if someone says it's white, someone else will say no, it's black. Seems we can't help ourselves.
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Old 03-30-2020, 04:36 PM   #4
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At this ooint: I'm willing to pee on a live electric fence, if it will help...
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Old 03-30-2020, 05:05 PM   #5
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OMG. Growing up on a farm, we used to trick the city kids into doing that. Not sure if it would help with covid - but it should would distract your attention and give those around you some comic relief.
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Old 03-30-2020, 05:14 PM   #6
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At this ooint: I'm willing to pee on a live electric fence, if it will help...
You could be in for a shock
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Old 03-30-2020, 05:42 PM   #7
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That'd be great if they work, but there isn't any evidence that they work--and worse:
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/hyd...rsus-covid-19/
Or you can look at the multiple (albeit, small) studies from around the world, not to mention the multitude of anecdotal cases where it has worked as I'm sure the FDA has done.

This is not the time to insist on large, double-blind studies to wait to approve this application of already authorized medicines in the fight against this new virus. Now that it's been approved for this use we will get the results on how effective it really may be in this ongoing live study. If it's not the miracle drug against this virus we'll know it soon enough. This approval has not slowed down the other research into drugs and vaccines to fight this virus, that's still ongoing as well.
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Old 03-30-2020, 06:21 PM   #8
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I guess we will find out, they have given it to 1100 people in New York city
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Or you can look at the multiple (albeit, small) studies from around the world, not to mention the multitude of anecdotal cases where it has worked as I'm sure the FDA has done.

This is not the time to insist on large, double-blind studies to wait to approve this application of already authorized medicines in the fight against this new virus. Now that it's been approved for this use we will get the results on how effective it really may be in this ongoing live study. If it's not the miracle drug against this virus we'll know it soon enough. This approval has not slowed down the other research into drugs and vaccines to fight this virus, that's still ongoing as well.
I would agree with Jamie if this was some brand new drug no one has ever taken before.

I do have mixed feelings on a 'cocktail' as it may produce undesirable result in some people. And I'm not a biochemical engineer.

Fortunately, these drugs are already approved for other purposes and studies have shown they may help. I would limit to right to try patients but to whom these drugs are given ahs not been divulged yet. Maybe it has and I missed it in the soup of everything else.
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Old 03-30-2020, 06:24 PM   #10
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Some day I'll have to find and post my electric fence story...
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Old 03-30-2020, 06:26 PM   #11
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Some day I'll have to find and post my electric fence story...
Please do, though should probably keep the jokes on the Smile! thread
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Old 03-30-2020, 06:31 PM   #12
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I'll put it over there...
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Old 03-30-2020, 06:33 PM   #13
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I sure hope this works. Just so the drug companies don’t shortchange those already on these medications to maximize profits. I watched one the news programs where a guy in Fla. couldn’t get the meds he needed for his lupus as it wasn’t available it was going to fight Covid19 . How true or not? Don’t know
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Old 04-04-2020, 02:53 AM   #14
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Likely Compassionate Use

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FDA will allow experimental use of drugs in seriously ill patients. In layman’s terms it’s basically a last resort to see if something will help when there are no other options.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-l...e/faq-20058036
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Old 04-04-2020, 04:42 AM   #15
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FDA will allow experimental use of drugs in seriously ill patients. In layman’s terms it’s basically a last resort to see if something will help when there are no other options.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-l...e/faq-20058036
Not to be argumentative but as there is NO known treatment for CV19 anything they try on the critically ill is basically a last resort.
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Old 04-04-2020, 05:32 AM   #16
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Not to be argumentative but as there is NO known treatment for CV19 anything they try on the critically ill is basically a last resort.
Yes. Not quite sure what the point of this is since the information I shared basically Makes the same point. This is referred to as Compassionate Use. It makes sense. If someone is that sick and will likely die without trying a treatment or drug then why not give it a try? That’s compassionate.
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Old 04-08-2020, 04:46 AM   #17
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Not advocating either way but I would suggest googling “hydroxychloroquine side effects” then decide.
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And now the rest of the story.

The Food and Drug Administration last week authorized emergency use of the malaria medicines for severely ill corona virus patients who are already in the hospital. Emergency use is a lower bar than full-on approval, which requires piles of clinical data about a drug’s effectiveness and safety. Those answers are still in the works, and the FDA has acknowledged that even if the drugs are effective, doctors don’t know the best dosing to treat the virus.

There still are no approved treatments for the corona virus.
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But at least they are looking at any and all possible options...
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An informed discussion:

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