DEF fill woes Magnitude BH35

[paulwadley]

Bob

St. George Utah gets extremely hot during the summer months. The winter months are much more mild than the rest of Utah. St. George has grown a lot over the years. When ever we go to Utah to visit friends, we stop over in Mesquite Nevada and stay at the Casa Blanca Casino/R V Resort. It runs about $33.00 per night full hook ups plus you have the casino to visit and enjoy the restaurant inside the casino.

Paul

[GVP-The Boxcar Children]

Weather update: In Draper and Riverton UT the high Tuesday was 70 degrees, 63 yesterday; the bottom is falling out, down into highs in the 40's for the rest of the week. No major snow yet except in the Mountains (we got 8 inches at 6200 feet).
Gary
GVP

[Bob Denman]

Mesquite looks very interesting...
We are small Town folks living in a place where there is no violent crime, and property crimes are most often High School kids breaking into hunting camps for the beer.

[Greybear]

Paul is right, it's hot in the summer. However, an hour or less up the canyon is Cedar City and the Cedar Mountains. You gain more than 3000 feet of elevation in about 65 miles, (2100 ft for St George vs 5000+ for Cedar). Cedar is still a pretty small town, but has really nice amenities, not to mention a world class Shakespeare festival every year.

We've looked seriously at snowbirding in Mesquite however. St George is indeed getting overgrown, and the cost of living is rising rapidly. Mesquite is a slower paced town with no income tax, and casinos. Also legal marijuana if that's your thing. The population is mainly retirees, and there are several nice RV parks as well as lots of places to boondock close to town. Lots of recreation as well from golf to 4 wheeling and rock hounding. Heck, there's even a Dell Webb community that's quite nice tucked up in the hills if you're thinking about a house purchase.

On the DEF problem front, I got serious and climbed all the way under to inspect the entire system. The picture's attached.

So, it looks like the hose isn't seated to the tank opening properly, and is leaking and crystalizing. It's now at the Ford dealer for their determination. Fortunately they have an RV specialist at the dealer. He told me that they have seen a lot of these units and that they are basically reworking the DEF systems because of hose routing problems and venting issues.

[paulwadley]

Hi Brad

Logan is also a nice place to look at base of the mountains. Just up the highway is Garden City and Bear Lake. We stopped over at the KOA Marina at Bear Lake this past summer when travelling back to Calif from Yellowstone. It was a beautiful location with the lake and all of the recreational things to do in and around the lake area. We met some really nice people there.

Paul

[Bob Denman]

Brad,
That setup looks as if it was just itching to start a major leak...
Good luck with the repair!

[Greybear]

Originally Posted by paulwadley

Hi Brad

Logan is also a nice place to look at base of the mountains. Just up the highway is Garden City and Bear Lake. We stopped over at the KOA Marina at Bear Lake this past summer when travelling back to Calif from Yellowstone. It was a beautiful location with the lake and all of the recreational things to do in and around the lake area. We met some really nice people there.

Paul

Funny you should mention that...

My wife was born in Garden City, and we both attended USU. We still have a house in Garden City, about 2 miles south of the Logan Highway T.

It is a wonderful place. Our retirement plan is to live in Garden City in the summer (My machine/toy shop is there, so I'm out of her hair). We'll winter down south somewhere, or stay close to SLC and just RV our way around the US.

If anyone is in that neck of the woods, holler and we can probably offer you a spot to park your rig with 50 amp shore power and city water.

[Srussell14]

I had the same issue come to find out I had a kink in my hose that was way too long so I shorten the hose remove the kink and now I have no issues so you might want to check for a kink in the hose

[Jimmers]

Originally Posted by Srussell14

I had the same issue come to find out I had a kink in my hose that was way too long so I shorten the hose remove the kink and now I have no issues so you might want to check for a kink in the hose

Did the same here.
Cut a couple inches off the tube and ran it they way it should have been from factory.
Can now use truck stop DEF pump.

[meyeagle]

OK all, lots of posts here but Graybear plus myself have the Magnitude BH35 not sure if the other models along with the Omni models have the same DEF tank location and fill hose routing that the BH35 has. Tried filling the tank over the weekend and was nto successful. I too went into the rig and followed the hose rom the filler neck to where it went over the top of the chassis and some wires then down into the DEF tank. The hose actually goes downhill then heads uphill over the top of the chassis. This is creating a back flow issue after just a couple of seconds.

Has anyone contacted Thor on this and see if there was a fix for it? I just sent and email to my contact there to see if I can get an answer. When I figured that I was going to get nowhere with this fill of the DEF tank, I took the fill hose and raised enough to make the hose somewhat level and fluid actual was dropping into the tank. So I can tie the hose up to frame support to make it level, but then you kink the hose.

For those that have use the battery operated pumps, have they been able to get up the hill and start a syphon action pulling the fluid into the tank? Has anyone else had success with other methods on the BH35 or other Magnitude models with this uphill hose routing

Thanks in advance

Matt

[nyles@gentzfinancial.com]

Thor had us take our sv34 to a local bus garage that rerouted the DEF. covered under warranty

[Greybear]

The end result for me is that the Ford dealer rerouted the fill line, fixed the leak and repositioned the fill port. $620 to repair, and Thor covered it with an assist from my dealer.

[Bob Denman]

Glad to see that you got this issue behind you.

[Gmthrust]

Originally Posted by Greybear

The end result for me is that the Ford dealer rerouted the fill line, fixed the leak and repositioned the fill port. $620 to repair, and Thor covered it with an assist from my dealer.

Any pictures so we can see how they routed it?

[meyeagle]

Originally Posted by nyles@gentzfinancial.com

Thor had us take our sv34 to a local bus garage that rerouted the DEF. covered under warranty

Thanks Nyles, Did you just go through the Thor customer service to get it cleared for warranty?

[CTRvs666]

Originally Posted by Greybear

Am I the only one having issues filling my DEF tank?

Trying to fill my DEF tank at half full results in immediate regurgitation out the spout. Same thing at the pump. Should I be waiting til it’s nearly empty, or should I be looking for an air relief hose kink?

I was able to fill the tank once at the pump when the tank was almost empty...

I live in Utah and have had the same issue when it was below freezing overnight. I waited until later in the day and it filled just fine. I think there was ice in the fill line. I don't winterize because I use my coach year round. I just run space heaters inside and it is OK.

I also had to buy a magnetic sleeve for buying at the pump. Some of the DEF pumps have that metalic sensor that shuts them off.

[nyles@gentzfinancial.com]

Yes CW got the OK from Thor

[Greybear]

Originally Posted by Gmthrust

Any pictures so we can see how they routed it?

I'll take some and post them here after the weekend to show you all the re-positioned spout and the line (or as much of it as I can get to).

[nyles@gentzfinancial.com]

Filled the DEF today for the first time at gas station

The bus company moved the fill to the compartment forward of the factory installed fill
It is a direct line to the DEF tank

[Greybear]

OK, here are the photos of the repair.

They raised the port location by about 3-4 inches. The hose now runs *over* the structural crossmember, and then drops to the tank.

No more dip, no more problem. One wonders why they didn't just build it that way.