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Old 09-06-2021, 08:23 PM   #141
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I did and it looked like it woukd require welding new mounting brackets to the frame. Admittedly I didn’t spend too much time investigating possibilities since it wasn’t something I would be able to do without some assistance in terms of welding, etc.
When I get a chance I will crawl under mine and take a look. If some new mounting brackets need welded on, that won't be an issue, I have a mig and a stick welder.
If it's decided to move them I won't do anything until the Thor service center looks at and hopefully fix's my front cap.

BTW: how is your ft cap doing so far on this long road trip?

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Old 09-06-2021, 09:04 PM   #142
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Good job man, now the Judge will start to worry, then he will start looking, THEN he might find me freeloading……
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Old 09-06-2021, 09:15 PM   #143
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Kevin,
Good job man, now the Judge will start to worry, then he will start looking, THEN he might find me freeloading……
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Ps i will get a pic of my 2017 for you all also.
LOL. Sorry Judge, think positive happy thoughts and everything will be ok. I'm sure the Thor service center fixed the cap correctly.

Terry, let's see some pics when you get a chance.
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Old 09-06-2021, 10:19 PM   #144
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BTW: how is your ft cap doing so far on this long road trip?
So far so good….. I’m babying her as much as I can whrn it comes to
Leveling, etc. but we have been on some rough roads. Fingers crossed!

And if you figure out a way to install new mounting brackets, can I drive out and have you weld them on??? [emoji1]
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Old 09-07-2021, 06:46 AM   #145
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So far so good….. I’m babying her as much as I can whrn it comes to
Leveling, etc. but we have been on some rough roads. Fingers crossed!

And if you figure out a way to install new mounting brackets, can I drive out and have you weld them on??? [emoji1]
No problem. I will take a look underneath and see what is needed. I have been doing a lot of welding these last 2 months, put in a new roll cage and 4 link suspension in my drag car.
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:25 AM   #146
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The saga continues...

I heard from the repair center today. Thor accepted the cap repair as a warranty covered item (yay!). They allowed 12 hours for the repair. Now I'm in the queue to get the ting into the bod shop to actually see what needs to be done.
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:27 AM   #147
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Great news….
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Old 09-08-2021, 06:39 AM   #148
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I heard from the repair center today. Thor accepted the cap repair as a warranty covered item (yay!). They allowed 12 hours for the repair. Now I'm in the queue to get the ting into the bod shop to actually see what needs to be done.
That's great news. Hope mine gets covered.
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Old 09-08-2021, 07:45 PM   #149
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Hey Fellow Thor Mag owners! I’ve got a 2019 SV34 and we are having the same issues with our Caps separation. I mentioned it looking slightly separating a year ago when I was going through the Punch List. Unfortunately at the time Camping World gave me the “seal your own seams” answer. So I did and it’s way worse. I can’t get back in until November. I am very happy to see you guys talking about stuff that I am going through. I really love this rig, and hope to get to a better place. I do see how the front jacks would mess with the structure and I also think my slide is also affected as well!! Frustrating very frustrating.
Thank you all again.
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Old 09-08-2021, 09:06 PM   #150
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Pics of jacks up here
https://www.thorforums.com/forums/f4...ion-28232.html
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Ps. Will get pics when down soon.
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:24 AM   #151
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Just my thoughts on jack positions is it may make it worse but the core issue is abysmal factory installation. It gets to poor no real factory QA, Quality Assurance, and certainly no meaningful Quality Control, QC. Without these 2 critical factors all there puffery in the advertisements, all the fancy interior colors and design are meaningless. Think lipstick on a pig. The front cap separation or covid as scuba called it is just one quality defect we have. Things like flimsy showers, cheap ass water heaters, poorly designed and executed plumbing, exterior trim pieces that fall off, etc. Feel free to fill in any blanks what you've found.
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:51 AM   #152
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Just my thoughts on jack positions is it may make it worse but the core issue is abysmal factory installation. It gets to poor no real factory QA, Quality Assurance, and certainly no meaningful Quality Control, QC. Without these 2 critical factors all there puffery in the advertisements, all the fancy interior colors and design are meaningless. Think lipstick on a pig. The front cap separation or covid as scuba called it is just one quality defect we have. Things like flimsy showers, cheap ass water heaters, poorly designed and executed plumbing, exterior trim pieces that fall off, etc. Feel free to fill in any blanks what you've found.
I agree our "motorhomes" are lumped in with travel trailers.
Maybe the industry needs a new category with better controls..

A recreational vehicle, often abbreviated as RV, is a motor vehicle or trailer which includes living quarters designed for accommodation. Types of RVs include motorhomes, campervans, coaches, caravans (also known as travel trailers and camper trailers), fifth-wheel trailers, popup campers, and truck campers.
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:47 AM   #153
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Hey Fellow Thor Mag owners! I’ve got a 2019 SV34 and we are having the same issues with our Caps separation. I mentioned it looking slightly separating a year ago when I was going through the Punch List. Unfortunately at the time Camping World gave me the “seal your own seams” answer. So I did and it’s way worse. I can’t get back in until November. I am very happy to see you guys talking about stuff that I am going through. I really love this rig, and hope to get to a better place. I do see how the front jacks would mess with the structure and I also think my slide is also affected as well!! Frustrating very frustrating.
Thank you all again.
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Welcome to the club.
It's a shame that Thor will do such terrible construction on the coach and then put it on a great chassis like the F550.
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Old 09-09-2021, 12:34 PM   #154
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Hey Fellow Thor Mag owners! I’ve got a 2019 SV34 and we are having the same issues with our Caps separation. I mentioned it looking slightly separating a year ago when I was going through the Punch List. Unfortunately at the time Camping World gave me the “seal your own seams” answer. So I did and it’s way worse. I can’t get back in until November. I am very happy to see you guys talking about stuff that I am going through. I really love this rig, and hope to get to a better place. I do see how the front jacks would mess with the structure and I also think my slide is also affected as well!! Frustrating very frustrating.
Thank you all again.
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You actually have a 2020 Magnitude (the chassis is a 2019 Ford F-550). I have the 2020 SV34 as well and I could see the molding moving around while leveling so I new this was more than a "sealing" problem. I called Thor directly and sent them pictures and videos of it happening and had the front cap fixed in Wakarusa.

If you have any documentation of CW mis-diagnosing this issue when you brought it up under warranty, I would go back to Thor and demand they cover it under the structual warranty and have it fixed at the Factory Service Center in Wakarusa.
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:11 PM   #155
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You actually have a 2020 Magnitude (the chassis is a 2019 Ford F-550). I have the 2020 SV34 as well and I could see the molding moving around while leveling so I new this was more than a "sealing" problem. I called Thor directly and sent them pictures and videos of it happening and had the front cap fixed in Wakarusa.

If you have any documentation of CW mis-diagnosing this issue when you brought it up under warranty, I would go back to Thor and demand they cover it under the structual warranty and have it fixed at the Factory Service Center in Wakarusa.
Judge can you point me/us to your manual leveling process (up and down). I have done it automatically a few times and there is a lot of twisting and quick movement going on, it also lifts the coach much higher than when doing it manually.
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:22 PM   #156
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Judge can you point me/us to your manual leveling process (up and down). I have done it automatically a few times and there is a lot of twisting and quick movement going on, it also lifts the coach much higher than when doing it manually.
So I have three small levels. I place them in the center of the floor as follows: one in the middle of the front of the coach, another at the kitchen and the third at the entrance to the bedroom. Here are the ones I use....

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I then look to see where the level is and then I lower the front and rear jacks manually until they just touch the ground. Then I gently adjust the level as needed. I can do it much faster and with a lot fewer movements than AutoLevel.
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Judge can you point me/us to your manual leveling process (up and down). I have done it automatically a few times and there is a lot of twisting and quick movement going on, it also lifts the coach much higher than when doing it manually.
I use a single torpedo level I set on the floor just in front of the door. I manually drop the rears until ground contact and slight movement. Then drop the front to get level. Turn level 90* and adjust lateral level. Small presses to get small movements. If you overshoot there's no way with this crappy level system to retract just one side so you have to retract them all and start again. I put some wood blocks under the front pads to keep the front jack from being too leggy.
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:02 PM   #158
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Thor Super C front cap issues

If see the front severely low, I drive up on wood blocks with the front tires and then add blocks under the front jacks:

I have driven up on two blocks with no issues one time.
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Just another technique: like Judge, I will use ramps and blocks but I have the Level Mate Pro (kept from when we sold our 5th wheel). Now, if a set of wheels are more than 4 or 5 inches different (e.g. if the rear wheels are 4 inches lower than the front) I will drive on ramps until the wheels are within 1 inch all around. The Level Mate Pro makes this easy. I will then put blocks under the jacks that are raised and proceed with the manual level process (front until it touches, back until it touches, then front or back until level in that direction. Next side to side until level). Using this process (as noted by everyone else) is much easier on the rig without the jerky movements associated with auto level.
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Old 09-10-2021, 02:46 AM   #160
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Thanks so much for the leveling tips and validating, much appreciated. Our last campers were a vintage/updated restored 1954 22’ Safari Airstream 13 panel (supper cool but too small) , and then a low mileage 2013 Jamboree Sport 28Y-29’ full paint without auto levelers (Great little well built coach). After leveling them for years I’m a pro at manual block leveling, really loving the stability now with having 4 down jack other than the wheels. Looks like the key with this SV34 is to use a little of both blocks and levelers when needed.
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