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Old 02-13-2021, 06:36 AM   #1
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Fold up bed in Gemini 23TW

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We recently purchased a 2021 Gemini 23TW. When the bed is folded up, the legs at the end stick out and are dangerous. I have numerous bruises from bumping into the leg closest to the dinette. Anyone have the same problem? Suggestions?
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Old 02-13-2021, 10:45 AM   #2
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Did you not see the bed folded up prior to the purchase? Perhaps you could remove the legs so you wouldn't bump into them, cutting them off a bit is an option.
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Old 02-13-2021, 11:43 AM   #3
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Try cut up pieces of pipe wrap or pool noodles, may not look pretty but may save a few bruises.
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Old 02-13-2021, 12:58 PM   #4
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Welcome to the Forum!
Murphy beds...

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Old 02-13-2021, 01:30 PM   #5
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Haha. Funny!
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Old 02-13-2021, 01:57 PM   #6
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I have a 2020 23TW and understand your issue. The solution is to have the folded portion of the bed held back further at more of an angle.

Have you tried moving the mattress and bed coverings/pillows to different positions to allow the bed frame to fold back farther?

You can try making the elastic loop that Thor provided a little smaller/shorter to hold the bed back more. Another thought would be to make a loop of thin rope or cord to hold the bed back. I'd keep the elastic cord in place as a backup. If your new loop breaks and the elastic is not there, the bedroom wall and maybe the TV could be damaged and it will not likely be seen as a warranty issue.

I have a 3" thick mattress topper to add to the bed that will make things a lot thicker and a little more difficult, so I will be trying things out soon.

Good Luck!
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:55 PM   #7
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I saw that on an initial video and thought was an accident waiting to happen. First thought was a DIY solution - not cut off or pool noodles as suggested (in humor, presumably) earlier. Not certain how they attach, but at that point can they be removed and a simple hinge from Home Depot sandwich in there between the legs and base, enabling the legs to swing flush when the bed is raised?

Of course the ultimate solution is for Thor to scrap the bed/bench and put a true sofa/murphy bed in there. It is already a full length slide...and who needs a bench to tie their shoes! Thor should have good marketing data as the Delano is offered with both floorplan versions - bench bed and murphy bed - in the Delano/Tiburon. Which one sells the most?

Better yet, while they are at it, look at using Fords 176" wheelbase (like LTV Wonder and 2nd Winnebago Ekko floorplan) rather than the 158" WB, which would more directly compete with the 170" wheelbase Sprinter, but that Ford engine!
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:58 PM   #8
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Yeah... I almost spit my coffee all over the keyboard!
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:08 PM   #9
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We have a 2020 Gemini 24tf sprinter. Different coach, but rear bed is the same. Outs came with air assist cylinders to return bed fully upright. These are available from Thor and can be added to your coach as an upgrade.
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:15 PM   #10
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. That sounds like fun!
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:46 PM   #11
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how many words?

Here are a few pictures:
The triangular legs seem to be held on with two sizeable bolts several inches apart, so maybe they could be hinged...However, as they rotate "in" towards the center, they will take up more real estate on the underside of the bed.
On the product liability side, they will likely not go back to the original, bed supporting position on their own, so the user of the bed will need to actively do something to make sure the bed legs will work properly. This already happens on the murphy bed in the 23 TE. The user has to swing the legs down when the bed comes down... (sorry, all the pics rotated 90 degrees..)
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Old 03-02-2021, 04:38 PM   #12
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Hi,
We recently purchased a 2021 Gemini 23TW. When the bed is folded up, the legs at the end stick out and are dangerous. I have numerous bruises from bumping into the leg closest to the dinette. Anyone have the same problem? Suggestions?
WAK
After ramming into the thing 100x I took the leg off and use wing nuts to put it back on when I put the bed down.
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But by doing that: you lost a great potential towel rack.
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Old 03-03-2021, 11:06 PM   #14
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After ramming into the thing 100x I took the leg off and use wing nuts to put it back on when I put the bed down.
I like the wing nut idea. Shorter bolts to make it easier, too! Just have to remember to attach the legs before you put down the bed.
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Old 03-09-2021, 07:07 AM   #15
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Fold up bed on 23tw.

Thor’s bed design jingle.. “ya do the hokey pokey and ya bang your arms all-round!”

I hope to pick my 23TW up on April 20 in Elkhart if no more build delays. Ordered in Dec. as Compass 23TW.

The bed foot design is on my list to tackle. I may try industrial Velcro to attach or fab a pin-on solution, maybe a hinge too. Will see.

May even try a total redesign using lightweight sectional supports as I’d like to recoup some real estate while the slide is in and I’m driving or parked.

Everything’s a trade-off so customizing may be key to happiness.
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