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Old 12-13-2023, 10:19 PM   #1
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Staying under GVWR when packing for trips

Hello All.

Looking for suggestions when packing and staying under the GVWR.

The 2020 Compass 23TW diesel only allows 875 lbs for passengers, fuel, and contents.

With 2 adults, a 15 lb and 18 lb pups, doesn't leave much for storage.

Without towing our trailer that has our spare tire and related jack/tools, these will add to the weight of the RV.

What are other folks suggestions?

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Old 12-13-2023, 10:36 PM   #2
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Sounds like you got it figured out.
Pull the trailer (watch tongue weight)
Pack light.
Ship stuff to next destination.
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Old 12-13-2023, 11:02 PM   #3
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Out of curiosity have you weighed your unit on a CAT scale to find out exactly your weights are? We have a 2024 Compass 23TE and are nowhere close to GVWR. Ours is gas though.
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Old 12-13-2023, 11:26 PM   #4
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Yes a little over even with the trailer on our last trip.

Diesel model has less storage capacity then the gas model.

Our next trip will be with out the trailer and with the hitch mounted spare tire carrier.
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Old 12-14-2023, 03:22 AM   #5
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Welcome to the "motorhome weight watchers" club! As time goes on, you'll prioritize your "stuff" you pack for trips. I'm a hopeless overachiever in packing... it's a constant battle - usually comes down to a coin flip.
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Old 12-14-2023, 05:09 AM   #6
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I would load up what you want and weigh the setup. Then start weeding out the excess. Maybe carry less water if going to a campground. Always have empty waste tanks. Maybe cut your fuel load if staying on highways. Think outside the normal.
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Old 12-14-2023, 11:17 AM   #7
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Yes a little over even with the trailer on our last trip.

Diesel model has less storage capacity then the gas model.

Our next trip will be with out the trailer and with the hitch mounted spare tire carrier.
Curious. when asked did you weigh it at a CAT scale, you stated, "Yes a little over even with the trailer" Did you weigh the RV (ONLY) NO TRAILER. Your unit states a GVWR of 10,360 lbs.
What is your weight empty WITHOUT the trailer.
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Old 12-14-2023, 02:55 PM   #8
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Water weight can grow quickly. Both fresh water and your black and gray tanks can weight a lot. Empty what you can. Food can be weighty. We don't take enough for most trips because food is available as we go.

Many campers love to have wonderful display of trinkets, outdoor fireplaces, carpet etc. Leave that at home. Bicycles to ride around the 1/2 mile camper loop are fun, but walking shoes weigh less. Tools are important....but not every tool is. A steel jack vs aluminum can add to your weight total. Don't take a full set of sockets. The most used and an adjustable wrench can cut some weight. It can be that it is not just 2 big things that need to be left at home. But, maybe that little here and there will be enough.
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Old 12-14-2023, 03:05 PM   #9
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Yes a little over even with the trailer on our last trip.

Diesel model has less storage capacity then the gas model.

Our next trip will be with out the trailer and with the hitch mounted spare tire carrier.
What kind of trailer do you have?
Although your GVWR is 10,360 lbs, your GCWR is 13,500 so you can carry over 3000 Lbs (including the trailer) in the trailer as long as the tongue weight of the trailer does not make you exceed your GVWR.
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Old 12-15-2023, 01:36 AM   #10
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Curious. when asked did you weigh it at a CAT scale, you stated, "Yes a little over even with the trailer" Did you weigh the RV (ONLY) NO TRAILER. Your unit states a GVWR of 10,360 lbs.
What is your weight empty WITHOUT the trailer.
On the cat scale it has the ability to weigh front and rear rv axles and the trailer axle.

Trailer is an aluminum 5x8, empty under 600lbs.

Always have empty tanks when traveling.
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Old 12-15-2023, 10:12 AM   #11
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On the cat scale it has the ability to weigh front and rear rv axles and the trailer axle.

Trailer is an aluminum 5x8, empty under 600lbs.

Always have empty tanks when traveling.
Thanks all!
Sooooooo! What were the weights of each axle?????
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:44 PM   #12
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Hello All.

Looking for suggestions when packing and staying under the GVWR.

The 2020 Compass 23TW diesel only allows 875 lbs for passengers, fuel, and contents.

With 2 adults, a 15 lb and 18 lb pups, doesn't leave much for storage.

Without towing our trailer that has our spare tire and related jack/tools, these will add to the weight of the RV.

What are other folks suggestions?

Cheers,
Well we travel with 2 Goldens 65 & 75 pounds.
We took a container of food and when low went to Costco to save driving weight and slide weight.
We now pack lighting clothing and less shoes because we where the same items on occasion.
Reduced amount of water and Soda.
Use berkie and tank and or park water.
3 years our tires kept at yellow sticker settings and no issues. We just picked up an Australian Labradoodle. Our 13 year old Golden ele died.
10 year old boy was lonely.
So less weight and food needed.

More room in coach.
See you all on the road soon.
Yosemite now wants reservations.
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:48 PM   #13
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Water weight can grow quickly. Both fresh water and your black and gray tanks can weight a lot. Empty what you can. Food can be weighty. We don't take enough for most trips because food is available as we go.

Many campers love to have wonderful display of trinkets, outdoor fireplaces, carpet etc. Leave that at home. Bicycles to ride around the 1/2 mile camper loop are fun, but walking shoes weigh less. Tools are important....but not every tool is. A steel jack vs aluminum can add to your weight total. Don't take a full set of sockets. The most used and an adjustable wrench can cut some weight. It can be that it is not just 2 big things that need to be left at home. But, maybe that little here and there will be enough.
Hey now now. E bikes have become unbelievable fun and exploring for us. We were in Silver City NM and found a 50 miles bike path near our campsite.
Go E bikes!
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:54 PM   #14
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sooooooo! What were the weights of each axle?????
steer axle 3700 lb
drive axle 6880 lb
trailer axle 1140 lb
gross weight 11720 lb
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steer axle 3700 lb
drive axle 6880 lb
trailer axle 1140 lb
gross weight 11720 lb
GVW = 10,580 (GVWR = 10, 360)
GCW = 11,720 (GCWR = 13,500)

I'm not sure your plan of losing the trailer (150 lb tongue weight) and moving the spare to the hitch will gain you anything.

Seems to me the plan should be moving stuff out of the MH into the trailer. You still have over 1500 Lbs of capacity left there.
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Old 12-15-2023, 03:18 PM   #16
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GVW = 10,580 (GVWR = 10, 360)
GCW = 11,720 (GCWR = 13,500)

I'm not sure your plan of losing the trailer (150 lb tongue weight) and moving the spare to the hitch will gain you anything.

Seems to me the plan should be moving stuff out of the MH into the trailer. You still have over 1500 Lbs of capacity left there.
That' the plan, especially when we want to take the ebikes, paddle board.

Our next trip we cant take the trailer as it wont fit in the location where we are setting up the RV (private residence).

Guess we have to go thru the RV and remove items as previously recommended.

Don't want to get stuck without a spare as a previous experience.

Thanks all and see you on the road!
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That' the plan, especially when we want to take the ebikes, paddle board.

Our next trip we cant take the trailer as it wont fit in the location where we are setting up the RV (private residence).

Guess we have to go thru the RV and remove items as previously recommended.

Don't want to get stuck without a spare as a previous experience.

Thanks all and see you on the road!
Allrighty then. If it was me, I'd make sure you weren't exceeding the rear GAWR (many class Cs are built at or even over the rear GAWR) and maybe add air bags or SUMO springs to the rear and call it good.

Good Luck in your travels and ignore the Safety Sallys that will claim your insurance is null and void because you are a few hundred pounds over the GVWR.
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Old 12-16-2023, 12:16 AM   #18
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We have opted for many functional changes to reduce excess dead weight. As suggested, thinking outside the box has helped us to achieve substantial gains in load carrying capacity.

1) We removed the bathroom door entirely and replaced with a lightweight curtain on a spring mounted curtain rod. You will be surprised just how heavy that door is.

2) The wrap around curtain for the bed... gone! Including the railing screwed into the ceiling.

3) Factory sink cover replaced with a lightweight roll up drying rack

4) Although we probably have more cabinets and drawers, we opted to remove some of the fancy doors since the space worked as open storage vs closed storage.

5) We have an overhead bunk so we removed the ladder and center bed insert.

Take an hour or so, just have a sit and look around and think about what is essential, and use a little creativity. You may find some things in your model that we don't have in ours. Every pound you shed, is a pound of something else useful! It doesn't have to be a massive change to make a difference.
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Old 12-16-2023, 01:20 PM   #19
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We have the short (173”) F53 chassis. 16k GVWR. 22k GCVR. But my brakes, drive train, and frame are the same as the 18k F53 chassis. Without spouse, 2 miniature schnauzers, and food (no beer), we come in as 15,980. That’s with full fuel, propane, and water. Towing a Kia Sorrento on a tow dolly add 4100 to the GCVW. The couple hundred over on the chassis doesn’t bother me. I rather focus on the GCWR as the ability to stop is a major concern of mine. The dolly has brakes. So use your own judgement.
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Old 12-16-2023, 03:49 PM   #20
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Biggest initial mistake people make is packing so much junk they think they will need. If after two trips, there are thing you didn't use (like the other 10 pots in a 12 piece set) or the other 3 pair of jeans, the other 12 towels and sheet sets, canned goods (the biggest culprit) and everything from the tool shed...take them out and leave them behind. It's become our habit to nearly empty the coach after every trip and reload what we need for the next. I also pull a 12' utility trailer with golf cart, folding table, coolers and other bigger items on the trailer. It stays within the GCWR and only adds 160 pounds to the hitch. Always travel with ample fresh water in tank and make sure you dump black and gray every morning before you leave. Purchase smaller packages of flour, sugar, milk, etc. and buy them more often. Pounds add up quickly. Put a bathroom scale next to your steps the 1st couple trips and weight everything that goes in...you will be amazed what you learn you can leave behind.
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