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10-12-2020, 02:58 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 29D
State: Maryland
Posts: 79
THOR #19558
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110 vs LP Hot Water Heater
Hello again. Still learning but getting there.
Are there two physical water heaters on here? Or is the 110 v one a part of the gas one? The control panel has the switch for LP and 110v but when I turn on the 110 switch I do not hear any relay closing or anything happening. So far as I can see, the 110 v water heater doesn't do anything. Next step in my quest is to figure out where the electric water heater is.
Thanks, as always!
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John and Carol and Daisy the Wonder Dog
US Army Retired
2024 ACE 29D, the "RITA V"
2009 SmartCar Toad,the "SMT L80"
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10-12-2020, 03:03 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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It's part of the same heater. Are you trying to use it without being hooked to shore power, ot having your generator operating?
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10-12-2020, 03:27 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 29D
State: Maryland
Posts: 79
THOR #19558
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Hey Bob. No, hooked to shore power.
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John and Carol and Daisy the Wonder Dog
US Army Retired
2024 ACE 29D, the "RITA V"
2009 SmartCar Toad,the "SMT L80"
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10-12-2020, 03:30 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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So if you've got AC power coming into the coach: check the fuse panel, and make sure that nothing has popped...
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10-12-2020, 03:34 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
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If hooked to shore power or generator just turn "elec" switch on, if needing faster recovery of hot water turn both gas, be sure gas valve for propane is open & electric on.
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Sold '13 Thor Redwood 36 FB
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10-12-2020, 03:38 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 29D
State: Maryland
Posts: 79
THOR #19558
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So nothing popped on the fuse panel. Does the 110 take longer to heat the water than the LP?
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John and Carol and Daisy the Wonder Dog
US Army Retired
2024 ACE 29D, the "RITA V"
2009 SmartCar Toad,the "SMT L80"
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10-12-2020, 04:09 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,132
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnandcarols
So nothing popped on the fuse panel. Does the 110 take longer to heat the water than the LP?
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Generally - yes.
The 120 VAC is just powering a heating element in the same water heater - it may use a relay, but usually you can't hear any sound when switched on.
It is powered by a breaker in the power distribution panel - not a fuse.
If the heating element is burnt open it will not heat water.
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2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
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10-12-2020, 05:18 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 29D
State: Maryland
Posts: 79
THOR #19558
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Thanks all. I am going to try to use the AC and see if we can get hot water. Maybe I do have an element burnt open
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John and Carol and Daisy the Wonder Dog
US Army Retired
2024 ACE 29D, the "RITA V"
2009 SmartCar Toad,the "SMT L80"
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10-12-2020, 06:08 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Let's hope that you find yourself in the right kind of hot water...
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10-12-2020, 06:55 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnandcarols
Thanks all. I am going to try to use the AC and see if we can get hot water. Maybe I do have an element burnt open
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If you have a Suburban Heater you must turn on the electric switch that is located behind the outside cover of the water heater. Bottom left corner. Some heaters are gas only. You will not hear anything when you turn on the electric heater.
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10-12-2020, 06:58 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnandcarols
Hello again. Still learning but getting there.
Are there two physical water heaters on here? Or is the 110 v one a part of the gas one? The control panel has the switch for LP and 110v but when I turn on the 110 switch I do not hear any relay closing or anything happening. So far as I can see, the 110 v water heater doesn't do anything. Next step in my quest is to figure out where the electric water heater is.
Thanks, as always!
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Look outside for a vented 12 x 12 square cover. Then go inside and find the heater behind that location.
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2011 Keystone Sprinter 323BHS. Retired Master Electrician. All Motor Homes are RV's. All RV's are not Motor Homes.
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10-13-2020, 12:51 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,727
THOR #1469
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The electric side of our water heater did not work during the PDI and shakedown. Jayco replaced the entire water heater during our factory service visit. Works great now.
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10-13-2020, 12:54 AM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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How did you convince them to hook up to a water source for the PDI?
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10-13-2020, 03:28 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
How did you convince them to hook up to a water source for the PDI?
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I wouldn't sign anything until they proved both sources of water (fw tank & city connection) worked to my satisfaction, if not find a dealer that will.
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Fulltimed 10+ years
Sold '13 Thor Redwood 36 FB
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Replacement undetermined
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10-13-2020, 10:56 AM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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10-14-2020, 12:18 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 35SF
State: Michigan
Posts: 110
THOR #18186
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Are you hooked up to 50 amp?
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10-14-2020, 12:54 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,727
THOR #1469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
How did you convince them to hook up to a water source for the PDI?
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My dealer had water, sewer and electric available for the PDI. 5 stations with sewer, 30 and 50 amp and water. Their new building has 4 indoor bays dedicated to PDI and 5 FHU stations.
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10-14-2020, 12:57 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,727
THOR #1469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmers
Are you hooked up to 50 amp?
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30 amp and gen work as well. Doesn’t have to be 50 amp.
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10-14-2020, 01:27 AM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EA37TS
My dealer had water, sewer and electric available for the PDI. 5 stations with sewer, 30 and 50 amp and water. Their new building has 4 indoor bays dedicated to PDI and 5 FHU stations.
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Now THAT'S a dealership!
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10-14-2020, 02:54 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Missouri
Posts: 2,324
THOR #6903
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I know it has been on here before and since the subject is back once again MHSRV has a covered area with numerous sites for the day or two PDI with full hookups and a patio.
Gives you a chance to check everything and if needed stay the extra night depending on any repairs or replacements
There is a huge difference in dealers as well as the prices
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