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11-23-2020, 07:20 PM
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#101
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 31L
State: Florida
Posts: 2,063
THOR #12189
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Originally Posted by 16ACE27
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Boondocking requires judicious use of fresh water: look up "Navy shower".
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Also research "bird bath".
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11-23-2020, 07:49 PM
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#102
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31S
State: Texas
Posts: 4,180
THOR #6411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harmsy
I'm new to RV'ing and we did our first overnight winter dry camping trip this last weekend and stayed at a Harvest Hosts winery that's quite close to us...we were testing our 'boondocking' skills...it was cold but we still enjoyed it...we're in Oregon...
...our Thor Citation 24SJ had zero tolerance for powering anything that had A/C needs including the coffee maker or the Induction Plate...the generator appeared to want to run at all times...in the Thor specs it say that 'Converter Amps' are 45...so x 12V is that only 540 watt capability?...shouldn't it be more than that?...or am I reading the specs wrong and there's just some kind of fault with the installed inverter?...is there a mod to get more watts available that even a dufus can install?...
Had lots of other concerns but this is the most critical...other 'debilitations' of note were the tankless hot water suddenly going off, water flow pulsing, dinette footrest collapsing,...
(...we used all of the 40 gallons of water but only 3 gallons of propane in the one night...:-)...cheers Harmsy, (Ian)
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The converter amp size is usually geared to the battery bank size. A 45 amp converter should charge 350 amp-h to 450 amp-h flooded battery bank very efficiently. If you have more than 450 amp-h of battery capacity you should look for a more powerful converter. The max current during the bulk phase should be between 10% to 13& for max battery life (useful number of cycles). Charging the batteries to fast will shorten their life, as the ions in the battery need time to travel from anode to the cathode. If you push them to fast the battery will overheat and/or outgas. That is why the more expensive/ powerful converters monitor battery temperature.
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Jim & Roy Davis
2016 Hurricane 31S
1961 Rampside in tow
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11-24-2020, 04:30 AM
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#103
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Oregon
Posts: 54
THOR #20539
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Thanks again to all...especially thanks to 16ace27 for letting me know that I need an inverter for boon-docking that works...I am sure that the 2018 Citation 24SJ has some form of inverter but I can’t find the specs for it...I’m leaning on my dealer to dig in and help me get to the bottom of this conundrum...cheers and thanks again!...Ian.
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11-25-2020, 04:27 AM
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#104
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Aria 3901
State: Idaho
Posts: 698
THOR #9660
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2018 Citation
If you go to thormotorcoach.com, click on owners, then owner resources, and enter your vin#, you will find equipment lists and serial numbers for pretty much everything in your coach, along with "how to" videos and instruction manuals.
Mike
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11-25-2020, 02:07 PM
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#105
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Boondocking coffee?
I like to keep it simple.
Get a coffee pot over a campfire, and throw some coffee in it after it starts boiling.
Let it "roll" for a while, and then take it off, and throw about a cup of cold water in it. This settles the grounds (mostly) to the bottom of the pot.
Pour carefully, and enjoy!
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"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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11-25-2020, 04:48 PM
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#106
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Boondocking coffee?
I like to keep it simple.
Get a coffee pot over a campfire, and throw some coffee in it after it starts boiling.
Let it "roll" for a while, and then take it off, and throw about a cup of cold water in it. This settles the grounds (mostly) to the bottom of the pot.
Pour carefully, and enjoy!
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When I was in Poland they made it by just putting grounds in a cup and adding boiling water. If you drink carefully so as not to disturb the settled grounds it works surprisingly well. Wouldn’t by my first choice, but better than not having my morning cuppa!
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11-25-2020, 05:48 PM
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#107
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I agree! Coffee is like pizza: there's no such thing as a bad cup or slice...
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11-26-2020, 12:56 PM
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#108
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,444
THOR #17765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harmsy
I'm new to RV'ing and we did our first overnight winter dry camping trip this last weekend and stayed at a Harvest Hosts winery that's quite close to us...we were testing our 'boondocking' skills...it was cold but we still enjoyed it...we're in Oregon...
...our Thor Citation 24SJ had zero tolerance for powering anything that had A/C needs including the coffee maker or the Induction Plate...the generator appeared to want to run at all times...in the Thor specs it say that 'Converter Amps' are 45...so x 12V is that only 540 watt capability?...shouldn't it be more than that?...or am I reading the specs wrong and there's just some kind of fault with the installed inverter?...is there a mod to get more watts available that even a dufus can install?...
Had lots of other concerns but this is the most critical...other 'debilitations' of note were the tankless hot water suddenly going off, water flow pulsing, dinette footrest collapsing,...
(...we used all of the 40 gallons of water but only 3 gallons of propane in the one night...:-)...cheers Harmsy, (Ian)
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My water pump always pulses. Did in last unit I had as well. Probably has to do with quality of water pump installed.
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11-26-2020, 12:59 PM
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#109
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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. Christmas is coming: ask for an upgrade!
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11-26-2020, 07:40 PM
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#110
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31S
State: Texas
Posts: 4,180
THOR #6411
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Originally Posted by Jimbo56
My water pump always pulses. Did in last unit I had as well. Probably has to do with quality of water pump installed.
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If it pulses while running continually, you need an accumulator. If it cycles off and on quickly, then the pump is pumping too much water for the flow needed. A variable speed water pump is the cure.
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Jim & Roy Davis
2016 Hurricane 31S
1961 Rampside in tow
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11-28-2020, 05:55 PM
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#111
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Oregon
Posts: 54
THOR #20539
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Harmsy again...I went to THOR specs as per m1noel but I can’t find any reference to an inverter being fitted...am I looking in the wrong place or does the 2018 Citation 24SJ not have one?...I’m quite lost...
...and Jimbo56 mentioned his water pump pulsing...beau388 mentioned new or additional parts...if it’s under warranty, then they should just fix it...yes?…
Btw, I’ve just posted a new thread regarding the water pump not staying latched ‘on’...
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11-28-2020, 06:45 PM
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#112
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,347
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harmsy
Harmsy again...I went to THOR specs as per m1noel but I can’t find any reference to an inverter being fitted...am I looking in the wrong place or does the 2018 Citation 24SJ not have one?...I’m quite lost...
...and Jimbo56 mentioned his water pump pulsing...beau388 mentioned new or additional parts...if it’s under warranty, then they should just fix it...yes?…
Btw, I’ve just posted a new thread regarding the water pump not staying latched ‘on’...
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Generally - if you don't have a residential fridge then you don't have a factory installed inverter. From my research, your 24SJ has the standard 2-way propane/120 VAC fridge. But it still requires 12 VDC control power in order for it to work.
So if that is the case, no 120 VAC loads will run unless plugged into SP or running the generator.
The house batteries will supply the 12 VDC control power for the water heater, furnace, and fridge as well as the furnace's fan and interior lights. There may also be USB charging ports that , fans, and maybe a radio that are also connected to the house batteries.
But again, just like with the fresh water supply, if you are not frugal with your house battery use while boondocking, the batteries will run down to the point where the AGS (Automatic Generator Start) will start the generator (if you have that feature) to charge the batteries, or you will need to start the generator yourself to charge the batteries.
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Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
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