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Old 08-14-2020, 01:04 AM   #1
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Coffee on Inverter?

Being the the inverter is supposedly 1800 watts, it "should" be able to run a coffee maker while boondocking yes? Seems the only things on said inverter are the refrigerator, lights, water pump, heater, and outside TV, but no inside TV's or any plug in the kitchen...weird
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:13 AM   #2
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How about (dare I say it...), instant coffee?
After all: you can boil water on a campfire.
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:24 AM   #3
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How about (dare I say it...), instant coffee?
After all: you can boil water on a campfire.

Blasphemy..YUCK! Self admitted coffee snob, but still prefer it out of a Mr. Coffee machine with thermal pot. My wife can hit the button when she gets up, and I still have it hot two hours later when I finally crawl out.


Firing up the generator just to make it at 7am ruins my beauty sleep and disturbs the neighbors.
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Being the the inverter is supposedly 1800 watts, it "should" be able to run a coffee maker while boondocking yes? Seems the only things on said inverter are the refrigerator, lights, water pump, heater, and outside TV, but no inside TV's or any plug in the kitchen...weird
The lights, water pump and furnace (heater?) are not on the inverter. They are DC loads powered by the house batteries when boondocking.

If the inverter has good connections, the house batteries are well charged, and the residential fridge does not try to start the compressor while brewing your coffee, they should be able to co-exist
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Old 08-14-2020, 02:43 AM   #6
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The lights, water pump and furnace (heater?) are not on the inverter. They are DC loads powered by the house batteries when boondocking.

If the inverter has good connections, the house batteries are well charged, and the residential fridge does not try to start the compressor while brewing your coffee, they should be able to co-exist

This is true...even more reason to question why no power for my coffee
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Old 08-14-2020, 02:45 AM   #7
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you should not have a problem with the coffee maker on inverter. You have about 15 amps to work with and the coffee maker doesn't come close to that. I run a crock pot on ours all day with refrigerator, phone charges, vacuum cleaner recharge battery and lord knows what else on a 2000 watt inverter. Happy boondocking and enjoy your cup of joe
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This is true...even more reason to question why no power for my coffee
Define "no power". Does your inverter throw an error? Does the coffee maker not come on? Is it plugged into an inverter powered outlet?
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Old 08-14-2020, 03:18 AM   #9
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Time for a little DIY.
Can you get to where the refrigerator, outside tv are plugged in to run an extension cord.

Or move your favorite (coffee pot) circuit to the breaker for the refrigerator.
Moving 1 wire sounds like the way to go, good luck and let us know.
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Define "no power". Does your inverter throw an error? Does the coffee maker not come on? Is it plugged into an inverter powered outlet?

To clarify, I believe they simply didn't wire AC to anything but the plug behind the refrigerator, and since the outside TV is right there, it's on the circuit too. All of that (batteries/inverter/fridge/tv) are within a few feet of each other, so thinking it was just to make it very easy to wire up.


Pardon my ignorance with inverters, but when on generator/shore power, would AC outlets that utilize power from the inverter switch over, or still be on inverter power? If they don't switch supply, then it would kinda make sense.
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To clarify, I believe they simply didn't wire AC to anything but the plug behind the refrigerator, and since the outside TV is right there, it's on the circuit too. All of that (batteries/inverter/fridge/tv) are within a few feet of each other, so thinking it was just to make it very easy to wire up.


Pardon my ignorance with inverters, but when on generator/shore power, would AC outlets that utilize power from the inverter switch over, or still be on inverter power? If they don't switch supply, then it would kinda make sense.
When on generator or shore power the inverter switches to bypass mode and the outlets on the inverter circuit get power as well.

My rig has a separate inverter breaker panel with three circuits.
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Old 08-14-2020, 03:58 AM   #12
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To clarify, I believe they simply didn't wire AC to anything but the plug behind the refrigerator, and since the outside TV is right there, it's on the circuit too. All of that (batteries/inverter/fridge/tv) are within a few feet of each other, so thinking it was just to make it very easy to wire up.


Pardon my ignorance with inverters, but when on generator/shore power, would AC outlets that utilize power from the inverter switch over, or still be on inverter power? If they don't switch supply, then it would kinda make sense.
So the problem is not "not enough inverter power"; the problem is "no place to plug in the coffee maker"?

That's just an invitation to do a "mod". If you don't feel confident with doing AC wiring, make friends with someone who is (and is competent).
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Old 08-14-2020, 04:02 AM   #13
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How about one of those Coleman QuikPot Propane Coffeemakers?
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Old 08-14-2020, 05:09 AM   #14
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We have a 2000 watt inverter, and yes, it will power the coffee pot. BUT, the pot saps the batteries pretty quick early in the am, before our solar really starts going, and it will trigger the AGM after 10-15 minutes. I am hoping to increase our battery bank enough to help with this exact situation soon.
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Old 08-14-2020, 10:44 AM   #15
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My Magnitude has the following outlets wired off the Inverter (per the wiring diagram on the Customer Resource Site):

- Overhead Bunk TV
- Outside TV
- Outlet next to bed (for CPAP machine)
- Residential Refrigerator
- Outdoor Kitchen Refrigerator
- DVD Player

Thor typically does not wire the outlet in the kitchen and bathroom for the Inverter because they need to be on a GFCI circuit since they are near wet areas.

You can run an extension cord from the bedroom outlet or the outlet above the dinette.

I have added two additional batteries and solar so my Inverter setup works pretty well.
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:17 PM   #16
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After the T105 AGM batteries upgrade I am able to make coffee prior to generator run time

That is after all night fridge and heating in the high country

Wasn't enough amps left on the flooded cell
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:15 PM   #18
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Now that we have found the perfect blend of coffee: we need the proper coffee pot for it!

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Old 08-14-2020, 02:24 PM   #19
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Iíd start by seeing how much power your existing coffee maker requires. If itís too high, you may not want to run it at same time with refrigerator and other items like TV.

We also love our coffee, but have different tastes, so we enjoy Keurig K-Cups. To save on both space and peak electricity, I purchased a compact coffee maker that takes up much less space and uses about half the peak power as our previous Keurig-brand coffee maker. It does take longer to make each cup, but the point is that if a coffee maker uses too much power for a given inverter, there may be other models that use much less peak power. Just something to consider if present inverter isnít large enough to power multiple items simultaneously.
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Old 08-14-2020, 02:59 PM   #20
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Please don't misunderstand me: I love my coffee also.
I have a saying: "If it's Brown: it goes down!"

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