Converter question

[Judge]

Originally Posted by dkoldman

You ever read the kids book, I can't said the Ant?

I think it starts with a noise in the Kitchen while the Ant was taking a walk. What's all the Clatter said the Platter"?

Is the clunking and the clattering the same thing? Can you hear clattering even with AC's off and just killing the genny?

In the book, Teapot fell and broke her spout causing the Clatter

[smitty1020]

Converter question Why do I have to keep resetting the breaker, and the battery disconnect switch light won't go off. although the switch was just replaced.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by smitty1020

Converter question Why do I have to keep resetting the breaker, and the battery disconnect switch light won't go off. although the switch was just replaced.

Unfortunately Thor wired the Main Power switch light to be on anytime there is 12V power… whether it is from the batteries or from the Converter when shore power is available. There are posts kn how to rewire it so the light is off when the Use / Store switch is in the Store position.

As far as tripping a breaker. Is the breaker a DC or AC breaker and which breaker?

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by smitty1020

Converter question Why do I have to keep resetting the breaker, and the battery disconnect switch light won't go off. although the switch was just replaced.

Your disconnect switch light will not go off because you probably have connected to shore power. Disconnect Shorepower and turn switch Off and let report back what happens.


I can't help with question about resetting breaker as it is not enough information to know which breaker and what is happening when it trips?

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by Judge

Unfortunately Thor wired the Main Power switch light to be on anytime there is 12V power… whether it is from the batteries or from the Converter when shore power is available. There are posts kn how to rewire it so the light is off when the Use / Store switch is in the Store position.

I admit it can be confusion, but I think it is wired best from Mfg. Light ON means you have 12vdc power inside coach, if you don't want 12vdc, turn the battery switch OFF, if it is still lighted, you know you have shorepower connected. If you don't want shorepower; go unplug it. Light goes OFF.

Now the real issue I have seen with some Thor coaches is the switches don't clearly tell you what is On/Off. I would label that switch or replace (not rewire). My SOB has switch like this and it is simple.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by dkoldman

I admit it can be confusion, but I think it is wired best from Mfg. Light ON means you have 12vdc power inside coach, if you don't want 12vdc, turn the battery switch OFF, if it is still lighted, you know you have shorepower connected. If you don't want shorepower; go unplug it. Light goes OFF.

Now the real issue I have seen with some Thor coaches is the switches don't clearly tell you what is On/Off. I would label that switch or replace (not rewire). My SOB has switch like this and it is simple.

I will concede your point my friend. A true On / Off switch that visibily shows on or off would be the ultimate way to solve this problem. Many a person has ended up with dead house batteties because they couldn’t tell of the switch was in Use or Store mode.

I tip my [emoji145] to you!

[smitty1020]

Converter question The AC 15-amp breaker. reset it and the VDC goes to 13.6 after an hour it settles back to 12.7 and stays there.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by smitty1020

Converter question The AC 15-amp breaker. reset it and the VDC goes to 13.6 after an hour it settles back to 12.7 and stays there.

The battery voltage behavior is correct. The Converter starts bulk charging when you turn it on so the 13.6V is correct.

But your 15A breaker should not be tripping.
There is either a wiring issue with that circuit or there is an issue with the Converter itself.

You may want to check the AC wiring for a loose connection or improper wiring as a starting point.

[16ACE27]

I agree with Judge - that 15 amp breaker should not be tripping due to normal converter operation. Your converter is probably only capable of outputting 55 amps DC at best so that would be about 6 AC amps. Also, it should not drop to 12.7 VDC if the converter is still on - float voltage is about 13.1 VDC.

To me - that's two things indicative of a converter issue.

[smitty1020]

The 15-amp breaker is not tripping. I have to shut it off and turn it back on then it goes up to 13.6. after an hour it goes back to 12.7. I will check to see if the wiring is correct seeing how the converter was replaced a month ago by a professional???. New doesn't mean anything

[16ACE27]

Originally Posted by smitty1020

The 15-amp breaker is not tripping. I have to shut it off and turn it back on then it goes up to 13.6. after an hour it goes back to 12.7. I will check to see if the wiring is correct seeing how the converter was replaced a month ago by a professional???. New doesn't mean anything

Sounds even more like a bad converter with that explanation. 12.7 VDC is battery resting voltage on a fully charged battery or surface charge voltage on a not fully charged battery.

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by smitty1020

The 15-amp breaker is not tripping. I have to shut it off and turn it back on then it goes up to 13.6. after an hour it goes back to 12.7. I will check to see if the wiring is correct seeing how the converter was replaced a month ago by a professional???. New doesn't mean anything

What exactly are you turning off?

What did you mean when you said "AC 15-amp breaker. reset it"?

I think that may help along with any other context, because saying your converter was replaced a month ago is what I view as critical need to know information.

Pictures do wonders to help.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by smitty1020

The 15-amp breaker is not tripping. I have to shut it off and turn it back on then it goes up to 13.6. after an hour it goes back to 12.7. I will check to see if the wiring is correct seeing how the converter was replaced a month ago by a professional???. New doesn't mean anything

Where are you measuring the 12.7V? At the Converter output, the house batteries or are you reading it from a Firefly / Rapid Camp Digital Display?

Also, have you had the coach since it was new? If so, when did this particular problem start?

If you haven't owned it since new, does your coach have a BIM160? If so, there is a good chance Thor wired it incorrectly and that is actually causing incorrect voltage readings and charging issues.

[smitty1020]

I have a BIM 160 which after testing is wired backwards,, Thank you all for your input

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by smitty1020

I have a BIM 160 which after testing is wired backwards,, Thank you all for your input

Thank you for coming back and sharing the update. It is how we all learn

[Judge]

Originally Posted by smitty1020

I have a BIM 160 which after testing is wired backwards,, Thank you all for your input

After thinking about your voltage readings and seeing that you replaced the converter, I had a hunch it was another case of Thor wiring the BIM160 backwards per some of my previous threads.

Glad that’s what it was but too bad you didn’t post before you replaced the converter. Hopefully this will help someone else before they take that step.

If I had a dollar for every time Thor wired a BIM backwards, I’d have a lot of dollars. I only wish it was enough to buy Thor, fire the CEO and fix all of the recurring problems once and for all.

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by Judge

After thinking about your voltage readings and seeing that you replaced the converter, I had a hunch it was another case of Thor wiring the BIM160 backwards per some of my previous threads.

Glad that’s what it was but too bad you didn’t post before you replaced the converter. Hopefully this will help someone else before they take that step.

If I had a dollar for every time Thor wired a BIM backwards, I’d have a lot of dollars. I only wish it was enough to buy Thor, fire the CEO and fix all of the recurring problems once and for all.

Bravo Sir... and you wonder why I call you the "Judge".... Oh that is your name my bad

I am starting to believe that Thor may actually have a few quality issues for real