refrigerator

[bry899]

Originally Posted by EA37TS

No the definition of open highway in NJ is one that is open to the public.

Sorry, research trumps personal opinion any day. NJ 39:1:1.

Your research and Proof is as follow, the code does not mention Propane:

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-jer...section-39-1-1

2013 New Jersey Revised Statutes
Title 39 - MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC REGULATION
Section 39:1-1 - Words and phrases defined.
39:1-1. As used in this subtitle, unless other meaning is clearly apparent from the language or context, or unless inconsistent with the manifest intention of the Legislature:
"Highway" means the entire width between the boundary lines of every way publicly maintained when any part thereof is open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel.
"Street" means the same as highway.

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by bry899

Your research and Proof is as follow, the code does not mention Propane:

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-jer...section-39-1-1

2013 New Jersey Revised Statutes
Title 39 - MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC REGULATION
Section 39:1-1 - Words and phrases defined.
39:1-1. As used in this subtitle, unless other meaning is clearly apparent from the language or context, or unless inconsistent with the manifest intention of the Legislature:
"Highway" means the entire width between the boundary lines of every way publicly maintained when any part thereof is open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel.
"Street" means the same as highway.

Read my last post

[bry899]

Originally Posted by EA37TS

Read my last post

This will take a while.

My advice for those traveling through New jersey, is to call ahead if you are concerned.
I have been traveling through NJ over 30 years with my propane tanks open, and I will continue to do so.

Also by NJ definition you can't even drive down any street with the propane open.
"Highway" means the entire width between the boundary lines of every way publicly maintained when any part thereof is open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel.
"Street" means the same as highway.

[EA37TS]

As to tunnels my research has found that tunnel lpg restrictions are based on whether or no there is an elevation change between or within the entrance and exit of the tunnel. Some locations have checkpoints to inspect propane tanks and ensure they are off (Virginia) while others prohibit tanks from entering the tunnels (Maryland).

Individual responsibility to know the laws of the states in which they are traveling.

[ducksface]

1 show me any proof of a conviction for such a thing in an rv, no matter the law. Show me the percentage of convictions equal more than 1 conviction per 10,000,000 miles if indeed you find any non commercial or non nutcase cases.

2 turning off the propane group needd to show proof of any fire or explosion from not doing such and show percentages greater than 1:100,000,000.

3 It's ridiculous as proven by a literal gazillion miles of rv travel over the last 100 years.

4 do as you want. Do not foist personal fears on others. If it's not personal fear, prove how everyone should fear it.

5 the chances of being hit by lightning while being kicked to death by a mule are higher.


It's a Ghost story. A story about ghosts,

[lwmcguir]

My two cents worth

We had propane fridges on traveling from 1965 until 2016 when we bought the Tuscany

Brother and all the group we camped with did the same for all those years

No fires but nice cold food except for the 4-door model in the Landmark which was a pain to keep cold

[Chateau_Nomad]

Originally Posted by EA37TS

Today as we crossed into New Jersey my Garmin GPS alerted that LPG tanks must be shut off and that on the particular highway there was a 4 ton weight restriction for U turns.

I don’t need propane while traveling so the take is always off while we travel.

Easy answer... avoid NJ. Any state which has ridiculous laws/rules not based on facts (and we ALL know the ones) - I will NOT visit... let alone live there. Why would I support that?? Face it... life is all about making choices. And yes, I know... family.

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by Chateau_Nomad

Easy answer... avoid NJ. Any state which has ridiculous laws/rules not based on facts (and we ALL know the ones) - I will NOT visit... let alone live there. Why would I support that?? Face it... life is all about making choices. And yes, I know... family.

Grandkids are here, otherwise I wouldn’t be anywhere near here. Way to many business trips here to include one where my rental car was totaled by an idiot in a heating and cooling service van rear ending me at a red light causing a chain reaction multi car event. Since I was corporate everyone tried suing me but nobody got a penny. I have some legal experience, from a defendant’s perspective, with New Jersey’s asinine laws.

[Ottosails]

+1 for leaving fridge on while driving -
When we had a propane refrigerator I would turn it on the night before a trip and off when we returned home. Didn't not use much propane and kept things nice and cold... If we were on shore power it would run on electric.

+ 1 for staying away from NJ - All due respect, nice people but crazy state with lots of rules and lots of people...

[16ACE27]

Originally Posted by bry899

Your research and Proof is as follow, the code does not mention Propane:

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-jer...section-39-1-1

2013 New Jersey Revised Statutes
Title 39 - MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC REGULATION
Section 39:1-1 - Words and phrases defined.
39:1-1. As used in this subtitle, unless other meaning is clearly apparent from the language or context, or unless inconsistent with the manifest intention of the Legislature:
"Highway" means the entire width between the boundary lines of every way publicly maintained when any part thereof is open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel.
"Street" means the same as highway.

That "research and proof" was in response to my question of the definition of an "open highway". Nothing there about open propane tank prohibition. Dave says he has found that statute and will post it later. We wait until later.

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by 16ACE27

That "research and proof" was in response to my question of the definition of an "open highway". Nothing there about open propane tank prohibition. Dave says he has found that statute and will post it later. We wait until later.

The statute is on my MacBook from when I was doing some trip planning, so I will post it when I have a need to power up the computer.

Visiting with the Daughter, SIL and Grandkids is far more important than the laptop. Sorry, fact if life.

BTW when Garmin warned about a 4K weight restriction for UTurns there was a sign posted at every location. Garmin has it right and I will believe Garmin over others that think they know what’s right. Again, fact of life, Garmin’s business depends on getting things right.

[dkoldman]

Not to throw a wrench on the focus of laws versus recommended practice versus real world, but isn't OP from Colorado? I always have electric on anyway in Colorado starting around Amarillo / Raton Pass up to Denver. It is not done for safety reasons though.

So I have to update my Waze Apps to avoid New Jersey joining my already ban to avoid Virginia (weighing requirements)

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by dkoldman

Not to throw a wrench on the focus of laws versus recommended practice versus real world, but isn't OP from Colorado? I always have electric on anyway in Colorado starting around Amarillo / Raton Pass up to Denver. It is not done for safety reasons though.

So I have to update my Waze Apps to avoid New Jersey joining my already ban to avoid Virginia (weighing requirements)

No weighting required in Virginia. Lived there for 25 years. There is an all vehicles requirement in Maryland.

[ducksface]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.onl...ws-part-2/amp/

Look up any state, find silliness.
The law iz silly, we know it's sillly, no one will post conviction rates...
What's the exercise?

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by EA37TS

No weighting required in Virginia. Lived there for 25 years. There is an all vehicles requirement in Maryland.

Are you sure...

[bry899]

Originally Posted by 16ACE27

That "research and proof" was in response to my question of the definition of an "open highway". Nothing there about open propane tank prohibition. Dave says he has found that statute and will post it later. We wait until later.

Thanks, interestingly nobody from New Jersey has piped in.

[bry899]

Originally Posted by EA37TS

No the definition of open highway in NJ is one that is open to the public.

Sorry, research trumps personal opinion any day..

Even dumber is no tow dollies are allowed on the NJ Turnpike. Motorhome towing must be 4 wheels on the ground. The GSP requires a tow bar , safety chains and emergency lights. Make sense: to me absolutely not.

TITLE 19. OTHER AGENCIES
NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE AUTHORITY
CHAPTER 9. NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE AUTHORITY
SUBCHAPTER 1. TRAFFIC CONTROL ON NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE


§ 19:9-1.9 Limitations on use of Roadway

20. Vehicles in tow:
i. With an axle or combination of axles raised off the ground and supported by cable, chains, rope, dollies or other devices, except that Class 1 vehicles in tow with front axle off the ground and supported by dollies with safety chains are permitted to enter and use the Turnpike provided that the brake lights and turn signals of the tow dolly trailering system or towed vehicle are connected to and operating in conjunction with the towing vehicle's lights;

Still searching for the propane tanks closed in NJ statue

[Jimbo56]

We need a couple of dozen more threads on:

Run with propane on/off

Tire pressure

Electric vehicles

I had to wait 6 months to get the screw replaced in my cabinet

And last but not least, what drives the price of gas

Let’s stick to productive stuff like “How do I get my wheel cover off?”.

Oh, and do you travel with full or empty tanks?

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by Jimbo56

We need a couple of dozen more threads on:

Run with propane on/off

I had to wait 6 months to get the screw replaced in my cabinet

True Story, a few years ago while still under warranty, I was at the Dealer as they were making a list of few warranties items to fix. I noticed a screw on the trim of outside door that seemed awkwardly inserted, so I show to service writer. He played with the screw a little and turned around and said it was best to leave alone because if he writes it up they make break it Because I had other stuff that I was wanting them to do, I didn't press him over that. This morning while moving the RV; I noticed that same screw, and it just kind of bugged me for some reason; so I figure I get the big Phillip screwdriver to see if I could just move it a tad without breaking. It screwed right in and torqued tight.

It took 3 years, but I got the screw in

Point is these are good questions, because when you don't know, you don't know. The bottom line answer for OP is yes it is safe to run propane while driving, but it is BETTER if you can avoid. I use to run all the time, but modified my system where I don't need to anymore. I prefer the latter.

[16ACE27]

Originally Posted by Jimbo56

We need a couple of dozen more threads on:

Run with propane on/off

Tire pressure

Electric vehicles

I had to wait 6 months to get the screw replaced in my cabinet

And last but not least, what drives the price of gas

Let’s stick to productive stuff like “How do I get my wheel cover off?”.

Oh, and do you travel with full or empty tanks?

For a new RVer the answer to driving with/without propane on to cool the fridge is productive stuff.
So is knowing when/where you can not drive with the propane on.