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Old 08-29-2022, 02:00 AM   #21
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Do you think this will affect truckers snoozing on the on ramps?

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Old 08-29-2022, 03:31 AM   #22
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Do you think this will affect truckers snoozing on the on ramps?
That has been illegal in most jurisdictions for a long time but with new federal e-log laws truckers sometimes have no other option. I would guess that a lot of law enforcement types no the truckers limitations and let them slide.
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Old 08-29-2022, 06:23 AM   #23
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What really seems like it might get are those atop overs in a rest stop or something like that. Doesn’t matter if you are in an RV or a car. I have moved several times across the country couldn’t tell you how many times I passed out in a rest stop or park or whatever.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:06 AM   #24
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Homeless folks are like water in a balloon. Making laws to move them out of one place does not solve the problem, it only moves it somewhere else.

Yes I know this thread is not about the homeless but the thread is about a law that seems to be aimed at the homeless and van campers.

I wonder how it is going to affect all those truckers that spend the night on the off ramps along the interstates.
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Old 08-29-2022, 12:06 PM   #25
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This clarifies some of the new law: https://www.boondockersbible.com/202...blic-property/
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Old 08-29-2022, 03:11 PM   #26
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Yes I know this thread is not about the homeless but the thread is about a law that seems to be aimed at the homeless and van campers.

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I agree law seems aimed at the homeless, and probably at vanlife community to some degree as well, but I’m not sure it differentiates between “van campers” and other motorhomes or RVs, if that’s what you were implying (I’m not sure of context). I just want to add my opinion for clarity that a Tellaro van camper probably won’t be treated any worse than an Axis Class A if overnighting in a rest area.

I don’t see much reason (with one exception) why the state of Tennessee or any other entity would prefer a larger Class A or C over a Class B boondocking. In my experience with rest areas, car parking where most vans fit are much less crowded late at night than the truck parking area, where large motorhomes typically overnight. I have never displaced a semi from parking or overnighting in a rest area; or any vehicle for that matter.

The link Happy provided states Tennessee has most restrictive rest area policy of all 50 states, limiting parking to 2 hours.
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Old 08-31-2022, 08:22 PM   #27
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In the world of practicality, it is not how the law is written, but how it is enforced.

It won't take long until the cops figure out the intent of the law and they enforce, or don't enforce, as appropriate.

I'm pretty sure none of us will become felons over this.
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Old 08-31-2022, 08:53 PM   #28
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In the world of practicality, it is not how the law is written, but how it is enforced.

It won't take long until the cops figure out the intent of the law and they enforce, or don't enforce, as appropriate.

I'm pretty sure none of us will become felons over this.
We found out about the law from someone that was cited and has a pending court date in October.
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Old 08-31-2022, 08:55 PM   #29
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We found out about the law from someone that was cited and has a pending court date in October.
We don't know the circumstances, but I'll make two predictions:

1. That cop is a dick

2. The case will be null-processed
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Old 08-31-2022, 09:39 PM   #30
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In the world of practicality, it is not how the law is written, but how it is enforced.

It won't take long until the cops figure out the intent of the law and they enforce, or don't enforce, as appropriate.

I'm pretty sure none of us will become felons over this.
This may be true and at the root of a lot of trouble with inconsistent enforcement of laws today. Unless the law is very clear it is hard to take the human element out of an enforcement officer to judge and potentially make the innocent bystander a felon for ignoring or ignorance of the law.

This takes us back to OPs first post and comment "The legislative committee believes the intent to is stop the homeless encampments but that is not how the law is written."


Hopefully the law will be reworded; so it is clear to all to facilitate justice for all. In the meantime, I won't take chances. If in Tennessee, I will try not to stop for overnight; if I do; it will be at a RV Park, Rest Stop or Wal Mart.
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Old 09-05-2022, 11:11 PM   #31
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Like many things

these days, it seems overkill is the first option. While I can see if there is a problem, to address it in this manner, is like allowing someone to shoot your dog for barking at them.
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Old 09-06-2022, 01:04 AM   #32
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Thus, national forests (boondocking) are exempt, as well as any publicly owned campgrounds. Note that the Bureau of Land Management does not manage any lands in Tennessee.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:24 AM   #33
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We have a " reclamation area" in Ohio (former leased coal/electric utility strip mines from 20+ years ago) that is fairly remote and nicely regrown woodlands. It features three or four separate campgrounds with free boondocking!!

2020 and 2021 there was a tremendous vagrancy issue... trash everywhere. We drove over a few weeks ago, and it's completely cleaned up and refurbished. Each campground has a volunteer caretaker (free full hookups). Registration is REQUIRED and CHECKED by the caretaker. Violators are visited by a regularly patrolling sheriff cruiser.

The key is having a registration system - which is merely a FREE sign-in sheet. Vagrants seem to be frightened off not wanting to be tracked.

I think this is an effective method. It keeps the camping FREE for those who respect it... and provides policing to remove problems - not just ticket writers and fine collectors.
sounds like a great program
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