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Old 02-26-2020, 09:59 PM   #1
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Utah Parks without a Toad

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I'm thinking about planning a week touring Utah and some of the amazing parks in the area. We have a 2016 ACE 29.3 and no toad (pretty new to RVing). Are there campgrounds with shuttles to trailheads, vistas, etc? We'd love to do some hiking. The thought of moving the RV every time we want to see something is a little off-putting.

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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM   #2
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I'm thinking the answer to your question is "no". But what a great reason to get that toad now.
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Old 02-26-2020, 11:16 PM   #3
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Depends on where you camp. There are shuttles in and around Bryce and Zion. If you are staying in Moab and want to visit Arches you may need to rent or sign up with one of the tour companies.
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For Bryce and Zion, no toad needed, in fact it would be a waste. For the others you might be able to tour in your rig.
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Old 02-27-2020, 03:30 PM   #5
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From Utah and a class c owner I would shuttle at Bryce and Zions. Traffic can be very bad at Zions. Moab would be a great camping area with a tow or rent a jeep. Arches, Dead Horse Point, the "confluence" and many other sites that I wouldn't want to take my RV. Great hiking and site seeing areas.
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Old 02-28-2020, 01:12 AM   #7
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About those Utah parks, I'm assuming most of the interior roads are paved. Is that right or are there lots of gravel roads? Not interested in off road ing or jeep trails, but do like short hikes. .
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Old 03-03-2020, 05:13 PM   #8
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Thanks, all!

Sounds like there are options.... Or maybe we hit the parks while we're moving between camp grounds.
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The best places to stay around Zion/Bryce are blm/fs boondocking spots. Renting something would be the best bet if you don't have a toad. There are some campgrounds with shuttle service but they are overwhelmed by people.

Lots of good places to run razrs around there as well.
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If you can get in campgrounds in Zion are next to shuttle service. Coolest thing is to put your bike on the shuttle and ride back. It is like having the park to yourself.
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We had a toad on a tow dolly and drove to all of the Utah parks as well as Yellowstone. Took the shuttle around if it was available. That is when we had a very short Class C.
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We just did this same trip, all of the National Parks (5) in Utah this past Sept./Oct. We drive a Chateau 24F, no toad. We are a semi-mobile couple. I like to hike when possible, my wife not able to, so touring was from established paved trails/paths/sites. First stop was Moab, for Canyonlands and Arches. Camped in town of Moab. We chose to rent a car for a day, and were able to visit both parks in one day, although an extra day would have been nice for other, more remote areas (Needles). Too far to cover in a day. IMO, It would have been difficult to see these two parks from the RV. Went on to Zion, where we camped in town (Springdale). Great system of local buses to and from the park, then shuttle busses through the park, there are no motorized vehicles allowed in the upper part of the park. FYI: when leaving Zion, headed toward Bryce, they will charge you $15 to go thru tunnel, to allow you to travel thru the center of the tunnel, single file. (Necessary? Required). Went onto Bryce. Camped close to the park (Ruby's Inn), and took shuttle bus right from the campground, into the park. Shuttle buses run throughout the park, and able to see the park via stops along the rim. Great trail systems all over, both along the rim (vistas) and into the canyon (hiking). From there drove up to Capitol Reef (Route 12 highway is spectacular!). Camped in Fruita (Fruita Campground). From here we drove into the park via the main road (paved) in the RV. This park is tricky in the sense there are many 2 wheel and 4 wheel dirt roads off the main road, and we were not adventurous enough to want to drive the RV on them, though many 2 wheel dirt roads are good enough for that. We spent a day touring the park on main road, beautiful, and that was plenty for us. That should give you an idea of what to expect at the various parks, most are very accessible via shuttle buses, etc. No time (other than at Capitol Reef) was spent driving the RV thru the parks. FYI: we took 2 weeks (13 days) for this trip, but that included a number of days in Colorado. The Utah leg took about 7 days. Hope this helps. Enjoy your trip, these are great National Parks!
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Thanks kmartin977 very useful information. We are planning a visit this September. How were the crowds?
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Weíve visited these National Parks numerous times over the years and have never had a toad. However, we donít mind breaking camp so not an issue for us (we travel very light). In fact, Iíd rather tour in an RV than a car anyway. We try our best to avoid crowds by not going in summer, so a larger RV isnít as big a problem.

Weíve traveled to these parks in our 24-ft Class C, rented 30-ft Class C, and our present 20-ft van. The smaller van is more convenient to park because it fits in a standard auto parking spot much like a toad would, but didnít find either Class C that difficult, at least when we went.

At Zion weíve been lucky enough to get into campground next to shuttle busses. Thatís the only park I recall being closed to traffic. For other parks weíve stayed in campgrounds in Moab, or at Rubyís, etc. and drove RV into park. When practical we do coordinate visits with moving from one area to the next.

Years ago I took my parents to most of these parks in an SUV, and I didnít enjoy it as much as touring in an RV. While we had snacks and a cooler with food and drinks, itís not quite the same as having the RV near by. Just my personal preference.



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If you can get in campgrounds in Zion are next to shuttle service. Coolest thing is to put your bike on the shuttle and ride back. It is like having the park to yourself.
Agree. Most memorable ride was going in and out of canyon early in morning on a tandem. What a beautiful ride. Road had just been paved and was so smooth, and also so quiet we could hear wildlife and sound of stream as we rode the 8 miles or so from campground to end. Coming back with slight downhill was a blast.

On a different trip we rode our single beater bikes a little later in morning instead, but it wasnít quite the same. By then the shuttle buses and people made it less spectacular. Zion is great regardless.
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Thanks kmartin977 very useful information. We are planning a visit this September. How were the crowds?
Crowds were not too bad at each park but were still very busy, even though after the Summer season. What was noticeable was most campgrounds were full. Had to call days in advance and lucked out in many cases. If you can, reserve sites ahead of time.
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Old 03-07-2020, 01:45 AM   #16
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Bryce has a great shuttle system. Get off where you want and hike to another area and the shuttle will pick you up there! I used to stay at a BLM boondocks spot that was awesome. Half mile walk to shuttle stop. Ruby's complained and had it shut down. Don't understand why because they are fully booked all year long. because of this I will never stay at Ruby's again nor spend a penny at their restaurant or store.
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Old 03-13-2020, 05:50 PM   #17
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Bryce Shuttle with a Tour and Reservations

We did Bryce a while back and they had just started, in addition to the regular shuttle, a shuttle with a tour. We reserved our free ticket online and started just outside the park in the NPS lots. Our tour stopped at many spots where we got out and walked (always within site of the bus, so okay for limited persons) and our guide both informative and humorous. Someone tried to give him a tip and he told us tipping is forbidden.
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