|
|
01-07-2019, 04:28 AM
|
#1
|
Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Indiana
Posts: 1
THOR #14133
|
2016 thor four winds no start
Hello all, I have a 2016 thor four winds class C, model 28 F on a ford E450 chassis. For no apparent reason it will crank but not start. I tried cycling the slide with no change. I have not had a chance to check spark or fuel pressure but I suspect a safety switch for the slide. Any ideas?
__________________
|
|
|
01-07-2019, 12:43 PM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Elite 29fe
State: Florida
Posts: 700
THOR #4656
|
I don't think it would even crank if it were a safety switch.
__________________
Making a smooth transition to senility for over 70 years
2017 Freedom Elite 29fe
2015 Jeep Wrangler Toad
|
|
|
01-07-2019, 01:01 PM
|
#3
|
Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,329
THOR #7035
|
My 2016 ACE starts whether the slide is in or out. However the slide won't move if the coach is running.
You have an engine problem, probably not a Thor problem. Probably still covered by Ford's warranty.
__________________
Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
|
|
|
01-07-2019, 01:03 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
|
nosticks is correct. If the slides are out they lock out starter completely. If the safety override was defective, allowing the starter to turn over, the engine would crank and start up. I think you have an isolated ignition issue not related to slides.
__________________
Now an SOB
Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
|
|
|
01-07-2019, 01:09 PM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tfryman
My 2016 ACE starts whether the slide is in or out. However the slide won't move if the coach is running.
You have an engine problem, probably not a Thor problem. Probably still covered by Ford's warranty.
|
On second thought...you are exact! Mine will do this also. I guess we all have earned one brain-fart per month...I just spent mine.
__________________
Now an SOB
Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
|
|
|
01-07-2019, 01:12 PM
|
#6
|
I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
|
Have your Ford Guy put his head under the hood: this doesn't sound like a Thor problem...
Good luck: tell us what he finds!
__________________
"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
|
|
|
01-07-2019, 01:32 PM
|
#7
|
Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
|
Welcome to the site.
My gut says check the fuel pump fuse.
|
|
|
01-07-2019, 01:33 PM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
|
Jamie eats knowledge for breakfast...when his "gut" speaks...people listen.
__________________
Now an SOB
Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
|
|
|
01-08-2019, 11:31 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Thor Outlaw 29H
State: Tennessee
Posts: 668
THOR #13869
|
Not sure, but is there an inertia switch needing reset?
Under the dash somewhere like on some cars.
__________________
|
|
|
01-09-2019, 12:46 AM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 25.2
State: Florida
Posts: 116
THOR #13661
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
nosticks is correct. If the slides are out they lock out starter completely. If the safety override was defective, allowing the starter to turn over, the engine would crank and start up. I think you have an isolated ignition issue not related to slides.
|
Is there a lockout for the Axis? Mine starts, drives etc... with the slide out.
__________________
"The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."
|
|
|
01-09-2019, 10:39 PM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
|
[QUOTE=NewAxisOwner;161426]Is there a lockout for the Axis? Mine starts, drives etc... with the slide out.[/QUOTE
Not sure of that model but I was told at factory none of them should operate slides with engine running.
__________________
Now an SOB
Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
|
|
|
01-10-2019, 05:42 PM
|
#12
|
Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau Super C 33SW
State: Florida
Posts: 92
THOR #10499
|
Ford has a fuel shutoff switch that is typically in the passenger kick panel, or passenger end of the dash. There will be a removable panel and a black switch with red push button. Push the button, you will fee it click, then try to start again.
__________________
Dan S.
2015 Thor Chateau Super C 33SW
F-550 Chassis, 6.7L Powerstroke
|
|
|
01-12-2019, 01:40 PM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Virginia
Posts: 315
THOR #7607
|
The "lockout" effects the slide in/out button...not the ignition. In some instances a person may want to run the engine to charge the batteries or other things.
__________________
ComputerChips
|
|
|
01-17-2019, 11:26 PM
|
#14
|
Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Indiana
Posts: 15
THOR #6251
|
I had a chance to test today. The motor will start with a shot of starting fluid. I cant find my owners manual to figure out which relay and fuse is for fuel pump so that I can test them.
__________________
|
|
|
01-18-2019, 03:10 PM
|
#15
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2013 ACE 30.1
State: Alberta
Posts: 1,410
THOR #2631
|
Is this link of any value to you? It says 2016 E450 but I am not certain if it's for your vehicle exactly.
https://circuitswiring.com/ford-e-45...e-box-diagram/
Looks like position 5 (relay), 43 (20A fuse) and 54 (10 A fuse for relay coil) are related to the Fuel Pump.....also fuel pump diode assignment near the bottom of the listing. Maybe someone with your coach can suggest the correct info if this is not correct.
__________________
|
|
|
01-27-2019, 06:29 AM
|
#16
|
Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Indiana
Posts: 15
THOR #6251
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by javelin
Is this link of any value to you? It says 2016 E450 but I am not certain if it's for your vehicle exactly.
https://circuitswiring.com/ford-e-45...e-box-diagram/
Looks like position 5 (relay), 43 (20A fuse) and 54 (10 A fuse for relay coil) are related to the Fuel Pump.....also fuel pump diode assignment near the bottom of the listing. Maybe someone with your coach can suggest the correct info if this is not correct.
|
it looks like my fuse box, I will check it out when the weather breaks. Thanks!
__________________
|
|
|
01-28-2019, 01:32 AM
|
#17
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.2
State: Missouri
Posts: 1,038
THOR #4687
|
Be sure and post the results (either positive or negative). Always good to know solutions..
__________________
|
|
|
04-04-2019, 01:03 PM
|
#18
|
Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Indiana
Posts: 15
THOR #6251
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by javelin
Is this link of any value to you? It says 2016 E450 but I am not certain if it's for your vehicle exactly.
https://circuitswiring.com/ford-e-45...e-box-diagram/
Looks like position 5 (relay), 43 (20A fuse) and 54 (10 A fuse for relay coil) are related to the Fuel Pump.....also fuel pump diode assignment near the bottom of the listing. Maybe someone with your coach can suggest the correct info if this is not correct.
|
I can't get this link to work. I originally printed the needed results but have since misplaced.
__________________
|
|
|
04-04-2019, 04:21 PM
|
#19
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2013 ACE 30.1
State: Alberta
Posts: 1,410
THOR #2631
|
Hi, it appears the link I provided originally connects to the website....but they have blocked the particular diagram it seems.....and I am not sure which diagram it was either. You could try generically connecting to that website and do a search of various diagrams on it, or find your print out of what I originally sent. Not sure if this link will work or be of any value.
circuitswiring.com/2016 e450 fuse box - Google Search
After re-reading posts you say if you prime the engine it will start, so electrics are good (probably not crank sensor then or PCM would block spark and fuel I "think"). Fuel problem; bad pump; plugged filter. Can you hear the pump running in the tank? Prove the fuel rails have pressure etc.
__________________
|
|
|
04-04-2019, 04:27 PM
|
#20
|
Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Indiana
Posts: 15
THOR #6251
|
It would not prime on it's own. A shot of starting fluid would allow it to fire. I would say all of the sensors allowing it to work are working. I can not find the fuel reset switch on either side of the under dash footwell area. Today I'm testing for voltage in the harness just before the fuel tank .
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|