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08-14-2016, 12:19 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Georgia
Posts: 17
THOR #2605
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battery replacement
We have a Windsport 34J that has Harris coach batteries. They will just not hold a charge sufficient to run my levelers or much of anything else. Has anyone replaced their original batteries and if so did you replace them with AGM batteries? Will the charging system work with AGM batteries?
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08-14-2016, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: hurricane 32n
State: Florida
Posts: 799
THOR #4158
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I used AGM on my last class c worked very well
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Jerry and Debbie
2015. Hurricane 32N /Kia Soul toad
Retired
Crawfordville Fl. Vietnam Vet.
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08-14-2016, 01:48 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35C
State: Florida
Posts: 110
THOR #4067
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Jerry
Welcome Home!
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08-14-2016, 01:49 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Nexus Viper 27V
State: Georgia
Posts: 1,666
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Beachrunner,
I had one heck of a time with Harris Batteries. The saga started soon after purchasing our Vegas May 2015 and took several months to resolve. Thread posted under Maintaince and Repair this Forum for the long running discussion (use search option this Forum, look for "Final report Harris Batteries and WFCO charger/converter" and "Can Zero Maintainance Batteries be used as House Batteries).
Bottom line is I got two new batteries, almost a year latter I was reimbursed, below is my solution:
I purchased two new Exide Nautilus Marine Deep Cycle Batteries (27MDC) with 550 cold cranking Amps at 0 degrees, 675 Marine cranking Amps at 32 degrees, 182 minutes reserve capacity at 25 amps,105 amp hourscontinues operation time, 182 reserve capacity, Lead/Antimony construction, enveloped separators surround the plates, thicker grids designed for manycycles, Stainless steel threaded and SAE posts provide ease of installation andpermit uncluttered wiring harness for electrical connections, with a 12 mo. warranty that will be honored at Camping World.
My old batteries were declaired "Sulfate dead"...which is real dead. These new ones have not missed a lick, charge just fine and were worth the headaches.
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Sheree & Michael NCNG LTC(ret) with Munpi, RC and Sheba (cat).
2019 Nexus Viper 27V, E-450, 5 speed "Ms. Enterprise", Infotainment Center, HUD, , Safe-T-Plus, Curt SpareTire Mount, ext. WiFi Antenna, Roadmaster Tow Sys& Invisibrake.
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08-14-2016, 03:55 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: hurricane 32n
State: Florida
Posts: 799
THOR #4158
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Djnash, thank you!! Are you a VN vet as well?
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Jerry and Debbie
2015. Hurricane 32N /Kia Soul toad
Retired
Crawfordville Fl. Vietnam Vet.
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08-14-2016, 04:38 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Nexus Viper 27V
State: Georgia
Posts: 1,666
THOR #2142
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Jerry and Djnash,
Thank you for your service.
I have been overly impressed and intrigued by the number of Veterans on this Forum. My take: after defending Freedom, now it is time to enjoy the freedom RV'ing offers.
VN era vet, 12B10 Combat Engineer 1973 FLW (Ft. Lost in the woods) Mo, never left CONUS. Retired out of Air Guard Charlotte NC in 1995.
Doc
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Sheree & Michael NCNG LTC(ret) with Munpi, RC and Sheba (cat).
2019 Nexus Viper 27V, E-450, 5 speed "Ms. Enterprise", Infotainment Center, HUD, , Safe-T-Plus, Curt SpareTire Mount, ext. WiFi Antenna, Roadmaster Tow Sys& Invisibrake.
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08-14-2016, 05:21 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 22E
State: Washington
Posts: 304
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Our last RV (travel trailer) had Lifeline AGMs. Right after purchasing the trailer we upgraded the converter to a IOTA Engineering DLS converter with the IQ-4.
We also had 200 watts of solar. The batteries served us well for 7 years and were still going strong when we sold the trailer.
We will be upgrading our motorhome to a similar set up soon.
Ken
Viet Nam Vet also:
USN Air VP-42
1967 Tan Son Nhut
1968 Cam Rahn Bay
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08-14-2016, 07:41 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: hurricane 32n
State: Florida
Posts: 799
THOR #4158
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Welcome home Ken!!
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Jerry and Debbie
2015. Hurricane 32N /Kia Soul toad
Retired
Crawfordville Fl. Vietnam Vet.
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08-14-2016, 08:14 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 22E
State: Washington
Posts: 304
THOR #4719
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jegdrum5050
Welcome home Ken!!
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Welcome home to you also.
You might want to check the thread I just started.
http://www.thorforums.com/forums/f4/...ster-4823.html
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08-14-2016, 08:33 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Nexus Viper 27V
State: Georgia
Posts: 1,666
THOR #2142
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Ag&Au,
Checked out the thread, added my 2 cents.
Great idea.
I wonder if there is a link to RV sites run by Vets? If not, I just posted one in your Fall In Thread.
Doc
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Sheree & Michael NCNG LTC(ret) with Munpi, RC and Sheba (cat).
2019 Nexus Viper 27V, E-450, 5 speed "Ms. Enterprise", Infotainment Center, HUD, , Safe-T-Plus, Curt SpareTire Mount, ext. WiFi Antenna, Roadmaster Tow Sys& Invisibrake.
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08-16-2016, 01:13 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35C
State: Florida
Posts: 110
THOR #4067
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Yes 22 years active duty. Nam 67 and 68. Tet was so much fun. And to all the nam vets a big WELCOME HOME.. And thanks to all of you for your service.
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08-16-2016, 01:19 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35C
State: Florida
Posts: 110
THOR #4067
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To get back on topic for a minute. What proof did you bave to supy to get reimbursed. My batteries are not charging and i will never bring my unit to CW for work. At least the one i purchased it from. They are.dumber than a box of rocks, being polite..
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08-16-2016, 01:59 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Nexus Viper 27V
State: Georgia
Posts: 1,666
THOR #2142
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djnash,
I had copies of the blanket denial from Harris Batteries, copy of the letter from WFCO as to why it was not their fault, copies of the attempts by CW to charge the batteries, CW's tests showing the WFCO was charging but the batteries were dead. Along with a few emails back and forth.
Good Luck
Doc
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Sheree & Michael NCNG LTC(ret) with Munpi, RC and Sheba (cat).
2019 Nexus Viper 27V, E-450, 5 speed "Ms. Enterprise", Infotainment Center, HUD, , Safe-T-Plus, Curt SpareTire Mount, ext. WiFi Antenna, Roadmaster Tow Sys& Invisibrake.
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08-16-2016, 07:16 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35C
State: Florida
Posts: 110
THOR #4067
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Thanks will start.the process
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08-16-2016, 07:37 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 613
THOR #4366
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Ours aren't holding a charge either, SG was running about 1.250 and now it's in the red. Tried external charger(s) and can't get them into the good range.
May stop by Tractor Supply in Harrisonburg, VA when I run in to get 3 more solar panels.
By the way FWIW the Harris bat specs indicate 1.265 for a fully charged battery. That's below the norm for true deep cycle batteries.
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2016 Axis 24.1 E-450 6 spd tranny
300 watts portable solar.
200 watts solar on the roof.
Wrangler JK dinghy
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08-16-2016, 07:52 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Nexus Viper 27V
State: Georgia
Posts: 1,666
THOR #2142
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Good Luck to all.
What got me was they said the batteries could have been mistreated before I purchased the RV (not charged fully/correctly charged/charged often enough) while on the lot, while used for show-n-tell, or in transit to the dealership. 5 months after the sale they were dead as a door nail..."Sulfate Dead!!!".
How can it be justified that the end user (purchaser) is held responsible for what happened before the purchase? That was my main question. Now that only I have been responsible for the care of the new batteries - NO PROBLEMS!!!!!
Again, good luck.
Doc
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Sheree & Michael NCNG LTC(ret) with Munpi, RC and Sheba (cat).
2019 Nexus Viper 27V, E-450, 5 speed "Ms. Enterprise", Infotainment Center, HUD, , Safe-T-Plus, Curt SpareTire Mount, ext. WiFi Antenna, Roadmaster Tow Sys& Invisibrake.
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08-16-2016, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 27K
State: California
Posts: 623
THOR #2544
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beachrunner
We have a Windsport 34J that has Harris coach batteries. They will just not hold a charge sufficient to run my levelers or much of anything else. Has anyone replaced their original batteries and if so did you replace them with AGM batteries? Will the charging system work with AGM batteries?
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I put Interstates in mine, solved all the battery related problems.
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This post is opinion based on experience.
2015 Hurricane 27K
2013 Sea Ray 220SD
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08-17-2016, 05:26 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 35SD
State: California
Posts: 2
THOR #4270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brucev
I put Interstates in mine, solved all the battery related problems.
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I replaced the Harris batteries with Interstate as well. We would typically get 4 hours running the fridge on the inverter and then the generator would kick on. Fortunately we were camping at a place with no quiet hour restrictions, but it also meant we could never stay at a park with quiet hours. After installing the Interstates we typically get 10 hours before the generator comes on. Problem solved.
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08-17-2016, 05:58 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 22E
State: Washington
Posts: 304
THOR #4719
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We have unlabeled batteries in our new motorhome in our new motorhome. Does that mean they are most likely Harris? Can anyone estimate home long before we start experiencing problems?
Ken
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08-17-2016, 06:01 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 22E
State: Washington
Posts: 304
THOR #4719
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We have unlabeled batteries in our new motorhome. Does this mean they are most likely Harris? If so, how soon should I expect them to start causing problems?
Ken
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