Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Thor Forums > Thor Tech Forums > Maintenance and Repair
Click Here to Login
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-23-2021, 04:36 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar
State: California
Posts: 894
THOR #22927
Battery Storage Switch

I have a 37.1 Miramar 2017. The storage switch was putting the batteries in storage once activated. I ran the engine for a few minutes, then generator. Batteries were at 50%. After allowing the batteries to build to 75%. The switch worked. Is this normal the batteries have to have a good charge to activate storage mode?

Thanks

__________________
Grumpy Grampa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 05:07 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1
State: Connecticut
Posts: 1,790
THOR #20289
Yes, I think that is typical. Your MH uses a latching relay that needs a certain minimum voltage to actuate the relay. At 50% charged the resting voltage is too low to actuate the relay. Once you charge it to 75% it is high enough to actuate.

FWIW you never want to store your batteries for long at 50%. Sulfate will drop out and form a sludge on the bottom of the batteries and ultimately cause them to short out and fail. Always store at 100% and have some means of keeping them charged while in storage- shore power hookup or solar panel.

David
__________________
DavidEM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 05:37 PM   #3
Site Team
 
16ACE27's Avatar
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,329
THOR #7035
The power to change the state of the latching relay comes from the house batteries. If in STORE mode and those batteries are too low you will not be able to change to USE mode until they are charged.

If in STORE mode the generator and SP will NOT charge the house batteries. Running the engine DOES charge the house batteries regardless of status of the USE/STORE latching relay.

Using the Thor 4 light battery status display is useless UNLESS there is no charging activated. It is also useless if the latching relay is in STORE.
__________________
Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
16ACE27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 06:32 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 37LS outlaw
State: New Jersey
Posts: 516
THOR #5248
Yea but all those lights sure look pretty at the walk through…….
__________________
Trkyte@msn.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 08:37 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar
State: California
Posts: 894
THOR #22927
Thanks. I would like to hook up solar power, I have four 6 volt batteries. Can some one tell me what I need to get started. And what happens if the batteries are charged will the solar panel, does the solar panel stop supplying.?

Thanks. This is all new to me.
__________________
Grumpy Grampa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 08:54 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1
State: Connecticut
Posts: 1,790
THOR #20289
OK, I think I can give you a very, very short summary:

Solar panels are mounted on the roof then fed through a solar port down into the coach to a solar controller that is mounted near the batteries. The solar controller takes the incoming voltage and current (and if wired in series/parallel that voltage will be 30+ volts) and converts it to what the batteries need for charging. The controller will shut off if the batteries are fully charged. The controller is usually wired direct to the batteries, not through the use store switch so the batteries will always be charged.

That is the two cents version. Read, read, read before you think about installing a system.

David
__________________
DavidEM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 08:56 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
waynetaylor55's Avatar
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 28A
State: California
Posts: 431
THOR #21941
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithgarnat@aol.com View Post
Thanks. I would like to hook up solar power, I have four 6 volt batteries. Can some one tell me what I need to get started. And what happens if the batteries are charged will the solar panel, does the solar panel stop supplying.?

Thanks. This is all new to me.
The solar panels are controlled by a solar panel controller. It keeps the solar panels from over charging the batteries. The controller should be sized to accommodate the amount of energy coming from the panels.
__________________
Wayne & Elissa
2021 THOR Four Winds 28A
Fallbrook, CA

Watchdog hardwired EMS, Alignment, Roadmaster front sway bar, vent covers, Dew Gutter
waynetaylor55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 10:08 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar
State: California
Posts: 894
THOR #22927
Thanks everyone. So if I have 4 each 12 volt batteries, then I need to have the solar panel controller set to a max of 24 volts. And hook the two leads to the main negative and positive battery posts?

Thanks
__________________
Grumpy Grampa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 11:24 PM   #9
Site Team
 
16ACE27's Avatar
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,329
THOR #7035
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithgarnat@aol.com View Post
Thanks. I would like to hook up solar power, I have four 6 volt batteries. Can some one tell me what I need to get started. And what happens if the batteries are charged will the solar panel, does the solar panel stop supplying.?

Thanks. This is all new to me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithgarnat@aol.com View Post
Thanks everyone. So if I have 4 each 12 volt batteries, then I need to have the solar panel controller set to a max of 24 volts. And hook the two leads to the main negative and positive battery posts?

Thanks
Do you have (4) 6 volt batteries? Or (4) 12 volt batteries?

In any case, It doesn't matter, your batteries are connected to provide 12 VDC as you have a 12 Volt system in the MH and will require a 12 volt solar charge controller. The solar panels will provide more than 12 VDC so one function of the charge controller to to take the higher voltage solar panel output and convert it to be used in the 12 VDC MH system
__________________
Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
16ACE27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 11:30 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar
State: California
Posts: 894
THOR #22927
I have four batteries, 6 volt each.

Thanks
__________________
Grumpy Grampa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 11:32 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar
State: California
Posts: 894
THOR #22927
Thanks for the info. So I will not need a 24 volt solar system right?

Sorry this is new to me.
__________________
Grumpy Grampa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2021, 11:44 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1
State: Connecticut
Posts: 1,790
THOR #20289
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithgarnat@aol.com View Post
Thanks everyone. So if I have 4 each 12 volt batteries, then I need to have the solar panel controller set to a max of 24 volts. And hook the two leads to the main negative and positive battery posts?

Thanks
Your four batteries are wired with each pair in series to make 12V and then the two pairs are wired in parallel to also make 12V but with twice the amp hours. You set your solar controller to charge 12V batteries and it takes care of all of the conversion from the higher voltage solar panels automatically.

David
__________________
DavidEM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2021, 12:21 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar
State: California
Posts: 894
THOR #22927
Thank you
__________________
Grumpy Grampa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2021, 12:26 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar
State: California
Posts: 894
THOR #22927
One more question. What wattage solar panel would you recommend to just keep batteries charged.

Thanks
__________________
Grumpy Grampa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2021, 12:38 AM   #15
Site Team
 
16ACE27's Avatar
 
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,329
THOR #7035
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithgarnat@aol.com View Post
One more question. What wattage solar panel would you recommend to just keep batteries charged.

Thanks
https://www.thorforums.com/forums/f2...els-28292.html
__________________
Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
16ACE27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Thor Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


Thor Motor Coach Forum - Crossroads RV Forum - Redwood RV Forum - Dutchmen Forum - Heartland RV Forum - Keystone RV Forum - Airstream Trailer Forum


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2