Black Tank Surprised Fiasco

[DogLovers]

Originally Posted by DogLovers

OMG Bob if I gave you a Newmar you would wreck it just leaving your block!

[Bob Denman]

You're probably right...

[roy stone]

Never, never leave outlets uncapped. Sensors don't always work properly, nor will eye inspection. Rock the vehicle when possible as a safety measure prior to recapping.

[Rooster210]

Not sure which you got but we got this one. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HKZHIW...ing=UTF8&psc=1
Never had to turn anything with a screwdriver.
Perhaps what I dispose of from my tanks is different from what the reviewer posted? They may need a diet change if they're locking up a cutting blade. [emoji16]

[Bob Denman]

In their defense: they never saw the fine print in the owner's manual, and forgot to sharpen those blades...

[Rooster210]

Ugh that would be a crappy job.

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by Rooster210

Not sure which you got but we got this one. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HKZHIW...ing=UTF8&psc=1
Never had to turn anything with a screwdriver.
Perhaps what I dispose of from my tanks is different from what the reviewer posted? They may need a diet change if they're locking up a cutting blade. [emoji16]

That is the one I ordered. I had never heard of screwdriver thing either until after I bought

I have since did a lot of research and found it to be a common problem. If there was ANY doubt look at page 2 at the bottom of the Mfgs Owners Manual. They tell you what to do with the screwdriver to prevent the fuses from blowing.

https://www.dyersonline.com/amfile/f...8/product/889/

I don't have Jet Flo yet so I can say what it will or will not do. I am just planning how I may get power to it once I do received it.

I said I may put a 15 amp fuse in it as an OPTION, the logic is it may work if I can confirm my impeller is not obstructed or stuck with solids that may have dried or hardened? I chose 15 amps because until I get Winnebago to confirm what breaker that wire to Water Pump comes from. I know I can be safe with 15 amps because at least one water pump that is rated 10 amps is on the line. Winnebago may tell me next week that it is 20 amp circuit? If so; I can just plug and play with the 20 amp fuse on the Jet flow.

But as I do more and more research I am looking to make a temporary 25 ft wire extension to run to under RV on ground to my battery compartment which is under the stairwell, not ideal but safe. I am also looking at buying another battery charger that limits the load to 20amps vs my existing charger that would accept up to 50 amps of load? Not sure if they charger on ebay is any good, but it may be work a try versus paying dealer to permanently wire to my wet bay direct from battery?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-20A-Int...9/143652069097

https://www.dyersonline.com/amfile/f...8/product/889/

By the way, I took the 100 ft hose out today. I actually have a sewer tap in drain in my front yard. Depending on where RV is parked the 100ft will reach without going in the house In the spot it will not reach staying outside of the house, I can run the hose through a back door and through the front door and will reach So it is possible that I may not need to pump into the toilet? and it is possible that I may not need to cut the 100ft hose

I just rolled it up on it's cart so it is store in permanent location waiting on macerator. Of course when I get macerator there is nothing to pump out as my black tank is bone dry. I have clear extension and 10ft catch hose as backup to prove it. I can drive the RV, or raise hydraulics at different angles and not a single drop comes out with valves wide open. Eventually that will not be true because eventually I will add antifreeze in the P traps. Remember this thread was about learning that black tank does not always drain empty when you think you have (in my case it was due to slope of tank at the facility); so I have effectively learned what to do to drain my tanks 100% dry if I ever needed to. The Macerator is just to do it at home without having to drive 20 min to the Dump Facility

[Bob Denman]

Originally Posted by Rooster210

Ugh that would be a crappy job.

That's when you borrow someone else's hard Arkansas honing stone...

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by Rooster210

Not sure which you got but we got this one. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HKZHIW...ing=UTF8&psc=1
Never had to turn anything with a screwdriver.
Perhaps what I dispose of from my tanks is different from what the reviewer posted? They may need a diet change if they're locking up a cutting blade. [emoji16]

I don't think the issue or resistance is caused by the cutting blades rather the Impeller. The screwdriver effectively forces the impeller free assuming it was binding or stuck.

I think a good rinse out in the end should avoid. I plan to rinse good and spray a lubricant inside on the impeller. I use a spray silicone on my Yamaha boat plugs and this would be similar. But I will also turn with a screwdriver just to be sure if it has been sitting for a month or two.

[dkoldman]

This was too hilarious to not share.

I was searching on what size wire to use for temp 25 ft run (20 amps) for Flo Jet Macerator when this review came up on Amazon.

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I did this. Disconnected battery. Found access to fuse panel from the rear. Routed 10 gage red wire to an empty D.C. fuse slot and attached it. Inserted a 20 amp fuse. Routed wire, along with others, to area above where sewer outlet is located. Drilled small hole in floor to the exterior of trailer. Tapped into another ground wire inside trailer and connected a 10 gage black wire. Routed both wires through floor to the pump. Caulked around exterior hole. Stood back and watched trailer burn. Any questions?

Todd F. Pohorylo · November 13, 2013

https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx1LF0Y1WZYP8ZO

[lwmcguir]

Originally Posted by dkoldman

You raise excellent point. Thus far when at a campsite it has always been for the black tank flushing and we use their hose when available but most of the time I connect my 25' sewer hose.



Any recommendations on what you use to sanitize the hose bibs? Some spray some sani wipe etc. Maybe I can make a solution of Bleach and water 5 to 1 and put in spray bottle?

I use hydrogen peroxide 3% in a spray bottle

1% bleach solution is fine also

[Bob Denman]

Originally Posted by lwmcguir

I use hydrogen peroxide 3% in a spray bottle

1% bleach solution is fine also

I buy Lysol in bulk, and spread it aroiund liberally...

[Judge]

Originally Posted by Bob Denman

I buy Lysol in bulk, and spread it aroiund liberally...

Who da' thought our disinfecting of the black tank and slinky would be the same cure for COVID?

[Bob Denman]

I've got some stuff here (Dakin's solution and
Santil); that could kill just about anything in the Universe...

But I save that for when the toilet clogs!

[lwmcguire]

My go to for most disinfection is and always has been peroxide

Bleach and the antimicrobials, (biocides and so on) all work and many work differently

Sessile bacteria are the most difficult to kill and often require a surfactant.

Bleach has always been the cheapest route and likely will remain so. The issues I have with bleach are the smell, corrosive, high pH, attacks red metals, hard on adhesives and many other potential problems

Bleach/chlorine kills layer by layer and free chlorine is much more biocidal than total or combined. there are some byproducts from the chlorine that are not the best for you as well

use it wisely and your good to go as many have for years

As far as the biocides go including many major ones marked for household use is they are organic chemicals that you really don't want in your drinking water or in your food

Careful use as directed and of course they are safe

for me simple is always nice and if it is affective then all the better so spending a bit more for the peroxide and using it for many purposes in the RV works for me

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by lwmcguire

My go to for most disinfection is and always has been peroxide

Bleach and the antimicrobials, (biocides and so on) all work and many work differently

Sessile bacteria are the most difficult to kill and often require a surfactant.

Bleach has always been the cheapest route and likely will remain so. The issues I have with bleach are the smell, corrosive, high pH, attacks red metals, hard on adhesives and many other potential problems

Bleach/chlorine kills layer by layer and free chlorine is much more biocidal than total or combined. there are some byproducts from the chlorine that are not the best for you as well

use it wisely and your good to go as many have for years

As far as the biocides go including many major ones marked for household use is they are organic chemicals that you really don't want in your drinking water or in your food

Careful use as directed and of course they are safe

for me simple is always nice and if it is affective then all the better so spending a bit more for the peroxide and using it for many purposes in the RV works for me

We actually have plenty of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide so I am desperate for legit uses. Way back when I was at a Wal Mart to buy Alcohol & Bleach and it was all gone !!! I looked over and they had plenty of Hydrogen Peroxide so I bought it all Well a lot anyway

But related point

Do you use the chlorine when sanitizing your fresh water system?

[dkoldman]

I fired up my new jet - flo macerator today to verify it works. I used one of the RVs House batteries and filled the bowl with water just to hear and see it run.

I did so; because it may be awhile before permanent install because I plan to take RV back to Dealer tomorrow for my last run of getting warranty items checked.

But here is my 12vdc power plan.

1. I ordered 12 gauge wire as I will wire directly from the Genset's positive post from battery to the inside of the Wet Bay compartment (12 feet total)

2. I will not try the battery charger even for a test.

3. When I ran today, it did not blow a fuse. but I will keep the impeller clean and moist before using. Screwdriver to turn is easy safeguard as well

4. I also intend to add a 1/2" Drain plug in the bottom of my wetbay so when i rinse out in future water can drain