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08-24-2019, 02:44 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2018 24.1 AXISSIXxSIX
State: Arizona
Posts: 6,899
THOR #13932
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It's pretty easy to tell if it's the same as my problem.
Turn it on high fan and Coldest setting.
After a very consistent period of time, I think ours is about 35 minutes, the air will be cold, but it will be a bit dank and the air volume will be much much less.
Turn off the ac but leave the fan on
Air will still be cold, but will warm over a period of 8 or so minutes, and as it warms, air volume increases.
When the air is 60ish degrees(a finger feel) turn the ac back on by pushing the button.
It should all work fine for another time cycle.
We go through this many times a day. It has become second nature. I have, as a lay person, tracked it to an aftermarket valve Thor used, a kenworths part I think. I have the Info somewhere, no guarantee I'll find it and no guarantee it's the problem if I do find it for you... Becuae I'll likely never fix it. It just doesn't bother me to push that switch off and then back on after a while.
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08-24-2019, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Fleetwood Bounder 35P
State: Florida
Posts: 475
THOR #15054
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ducksface
It's pretty easy to tell if it's the same as my problem.
Turn it on high fan and Coldest setting.
After a very consistent period of time, I think ours is about 35 minutes, the air will be cold, but it will be a bit dank and the air volume will be much much less.
Turn off the ac but leave the fan on
Air will still be cold, but will warm over a period of 8 or so minutes, and as it warms, air volume increases.
When the air is 60ish degrees(a finger feel) turn the ac back on by pushing the button.
It should all work fine for another time cycle.
We go through this many times a day. It has become second nature. I have, as a lay person, tracked it to an aftermarket valve Thor used, a kenworths part I think. I have the Info somewhere, no guarantee I'll find it and no guarantee it's the problem if I do find it for you... Becuae I'll likely never fix it. It just doesn't bother me to push that switch off and then back on after a while.
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That doesn't sound like the symptoms on mine. Air flow does not feel reduced/restricted; just not as cold after a while.
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08-31-2019, 08:41 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.5
State: Arizona
Posts: 165
THOR #14921
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In order to maximize the AC in the cabin area, just hang a couple blankets from the overhead bunk down to the floor behind the seats. Put the split in the middle with a little overlap so you can have a walkway through to the coach area...
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2017 Thor Vegas 25.5
Randy’s Rod Shop & Fabrication
Midlothian, TX / Gold Canyon, AZ
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08-31-2019, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.5
State: Arizona
Posts: 165
THOR #14921
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyB
That doesn't sound like the symptoms on mine. Air flow does not feel reduced/restricted; just not as cold after a while.
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If you haven’t already - You need to insulate the dog-house over that engine.
I did mine and even after pulling long mountain passes, the doghouse is relatively cool to the touch.
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2017 Thor Vegas 25.5
Randy’s Rod Shop & Fabrication
Midlothian, TX / Gold Canyon, AZ
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08-31-2019, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Fleetwood Bounder 35P
State: Florida
Posts: 475
THOR #15054
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big-Foot
If you haven’t already - You need to insulate the dog-house over that engine.
I did mine and even after pulling long mountain passes, the doghouse is relatively cool to the touch.
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Yeah, I haven't done either of those mods yet. I've been a little hesitant to take off that doghouse cover, fearing not being able to put it back together!
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08-31-2019, 11:50 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.5
State: Arizona
Posts: 165
THOR #14921
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyB
Yeah, I haven't done either of those mods yet. I've been a little hesitant to take off that doghouse cover, fearing not being able to put it back together!
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It’s really not difficult at all. A couple of the screws were tough to get the square-drive bit into, so I just taped the bit in the box end of a 1/4” wrench and walked them out 1/4 turn at a whack. I used 3/4” thick HVAC duct insulation foam and then DEI reflective fiberglass sheet over that. I used 3m #77 spray adhesive and HVAC Aluminum Tape on the edges.
I made a template first using rosin paper then cut it so it would lay flat.
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2017 Thor Vegas 25.5
Randy’s Rod Shop & Fabrication
Midlothian, TX / Gold Canyon, AZ
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09-01-2019, 12:26 AM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 30.3
State: Florida
Posts: 75
THOR #16529
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyB
I'm wondering if ours is suffering the same as ducksface's is. 36 sounds TOO cold and I wonder if it's icing up and that's causing an issue?
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Low refrigerant, dirty evaporations coil, dirty air filters, all causes of lower than normal discharge temps as well as freezing of the coil.
Armando
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09-01-2019, 10:12 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: California
Posts: 52
THOR #12858
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ducksface
It's pretty easy to tell if it's the same as my problem.
Turn it on high fan and Coldest setting.
After a very consistent period of time, I think ours is about 35 minutes, the air will be cold, but it will be a bit dank and the air volume will be much much less.
Turn off the ac but leave the fan on
Air will still be cold, but will warm over a period of 8 or so minutes, and as it warms, air volume increases.
When the air is 60ish degrees(a finger feel) turn the ac back on by pushing the button.
It should all work fine for another time cycle.
We go through this many times a day. It has become second nature. I have, as a lay person, tracked it to an aftermarket valve Thor used, a kenworths part I think. I have the Info somewhere, no guarantee I'll find it and no guarantee it's the problem if I do find it for you... Becuae I'll likely never fix it. It just doesn't bother me to push that switch off and then back on after a while.
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Hmmmm. Same problem here.
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09-02-2019, 01:51 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.5
State: Arizona
Posts: 165
THOR #14921
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When your AC is running, make sure the condensation in the evaporator can properly vent to the ground.
In other words, if it’s not dripping on the ground, the condensation will build up in the evaporator housing. Eventually, it will start to freeze up, stink and will ultimately corrode the fins etc...
There was a case I read of on one of these forums or on Facebook where the condensation was filling one of the fresh air hoses and was hanging way down from the weight of the water...
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Regards - Randy
2017 Thor Vegas 25.5
Randy’s Rod Shop & Fabrication
Midlothian, TX / Gold Canyon, AZ
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09-03-2019, 09:09 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: California
Posts: 52
THOR #12858
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Keefer
How was the outside temp on this trip compared to the last?
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Was the humidity high on the second trip? I suspect the exchanger is freezing up at times.
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09-03-2019, 09:15 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Fleetwood Bounder 35P
State: Florida
Posts: 475
THOR #15054
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Was the humidity high on the second trip? I suspect the exchanger is freezing up at times.
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I can't quantify it, but it was definitely a muggier day, so I would think that it was higher on the second trip.
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09-03-2019, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member
Model: 25.2 Axis
State: Arizona
Posts: 839
THOR #3471
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyB
Yeah, I was looking at them online last night. Have no idea what is "good enough".
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Vent temp should be 20-25 degrees lower than outside. If you get that no problem. That’s straight from an ac repairman
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09-03-2019, 10:01 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Fleetwood Bounder 35P
State: Florida
Posts: 475
THOR #15054
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh.vines@att.net
Vent temp should be 20-25 degrees lower than outside. If you get that no problem. That’s straight from an ac repairman
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I've taken three readings so far. For all of them, I've let the engine run for five or so minutes, then recorded the temperature and the outside temp. For all three, the output was almost exactly the same at 39 degrees; outside temps were 72, 75, and 77 degrees. I won't know how it does with it running a long distance until we head out west in two weeks.
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09-03-2019, 11:05 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2018 24.1 AXISSIXxSIX
State: Arizona
Posts: 6,899
THOR #13932
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh.vines@att.net
Vent temp should be 20-25 degrees lower than outside. If you get that no problem. That’s straight from an ac repairman
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You need an ac guy that has worked on anything newer than 1963.
You're saying/he's saying that a 110 degree day produces an acceptable and prolonged 90 degree ac vent temp.
That seems like some bad information to me.
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