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06-28-2019, 11:27 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 11
THOR #7592
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Emergency window won’t open...
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06-29-2019, 11:14 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Elite 29fe
State: Florida
Posts: 700
THOR #4656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chevylou
How did this pass a quality inspection at the factory?
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There is no quality inspection. Keep the line moving. Let the dealer find and fix it.
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2017 Freedom Elite 29fe
2015 Jeep Wrangler Toad
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07-14-2019, 05:38 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 11
THOR #7592
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I would like to update my problem with the emergency window in my 2017 RS26. I received a call from a very nice young lady that is a Thor representative. We discussed my problem and with her help we came to a satisfactory resolution to my problem. Note my rv was no longer under warranty, but Thor did step up. Thanks to the representative and Thor.
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07-14-2019, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Windsport 29M
State: Indiana
Posts: 3,692
THOR #5196
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Be VERY careful if you open the emergency window, after opening it will fall out on the ground and it will most likely break. The window is designed to fall out, you will need someone to grab it on the outside as you open it. Putting it back in is a pain!
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07-14-2019, 03:19 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 11
THOR #7592
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Thanks for the info. I will seek some help.
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07-14-2019, 03:25 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.5
State: Arizona
Posts: 173
THOR #14921
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperD
Be VERY careful if you open the emergency window, after opening it will fall out on the ground and it will most likely break. The window is designed to fall out, you will need someone to grab it on the outside as you open it. Putting it back in is a pain!
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I was just about to mention that.... My temporary neighbor at the RV park did that and it cost him almost a grand for a new window... Yep - they are apparently made to be single use items only!
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Regards - Randy
2017 Thor Vegas 25.5
Randy’s Rod Shop & Fabrication
Midlothian, TX / Gold Canyon, AZ
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07-14-2019, 03:31 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 11
THOR #7592
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I didn’t think the emergency windows were a one time use. I will do more research. Thanks for the info.
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07-14-2019, 03:45 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,988
THOR #1469
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There are multiple types and sizes of emergency windows. My Challenger has 2 emergency windows. There is one large one in the bathroom that has a lever or bar that allows for that window to be opened at the bottom for ventilation. The smaller emergency window in the bedroom does not have that lever/bar and I believe it would fall if opened.
As a note, the seal around my bathroom emergency window had to be replaced under warranty due to leaking.
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US Army (Ret)
2020 Entegra Accolade 37TS
2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk (Toad)
FMCA - F432054
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07-14-2019, 03:48 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 11
THOR #7592
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My emergency window has a lever on each side of the window. I will do more research. Thanks
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07-14-2019, 04:11 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 6,796
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nosticks
There is no quality inspection. Keep the line moving. Let the dealer find and fix it.
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From the way I read it from this site, from the victims and the the seasoned veterans who know these matters well inside and out, it is reads more on the responsibility of buyers to find all of these matters before buying and NOT completing sale until the PDI is completely finished? Buyers should then expect to fix the issues they can or understand that there will be issues missed and/or new ones as that is the way the RV industry, expectations of more seem to be tabu?
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07-14-2019, 04:18 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 6,796
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big-Foot
I was just about to mention that.... My temporary neighbor at the RV park did that and it cost him almost a grand for a new window... Yep - they are apparently made to be single use items only!
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So it cost a $1,000 to use the emergency exist? Wow, seem like all you would need is replacement glass? I will add this to my pre buy checklist to see how much it cost to replace windows/glass if emergency unit is required to be used.
Don't laugh but we were actually trapped in a Diesel Pusher because we could not figure out the door's inside latching mechanism. It was NOT intuitive at all. After about 15 minutes I was considering the emergency window, when someone walked up. They opened door from outside. I never figured out why we could not open, but needless to say, we did not buy that coach.
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07-14-2019, 04:34 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.5
State: Arizona
Posts: 173
THOR #14921
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkoldman
So it cost a $1,000 to use the emergency exist? Wow, seem like all you would need is replacement glass? I will add this to my pre buy checklist to see how much it cost to replace windows/glass if emergency unit is required to be used.
Don't laugh but we were actually trapped in a Diesel Pusher because we could not figure out the door's inside latching mechanism. It was NOT intuitive at all. After about 15 minutes I was considering the emergency window, when someone walked up. They opened door from outside. I never figured out why we could not open, but needless to say, we did not buy that coach.
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Honestly, I personally have never opened any of the emergency hatches/windows in any of my RVs, so I can’t speak from personal experience.
What I can tell you is that my neighbor’s window opened and fell - framed glass and all - to the ground where it hit a concrete curb and asphalt. The glass shattered and the frame was bent. His particular unit was fairly new (2-3 years old I think) but that model was already out of production, so spares were probably few. What made matters worse for him is that they had reservations at another RV park on the other side of the state and were due to leave in just a few days. They did come back the following month for a short time but I guess they had a heckuva time getting the new framework located and shipped.
Pretty sorry deal....
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2017 Thor Vegas 25.5
Randy’s Rod Shop & Fabrication
Midlothian, TX / Gold Canyon, AZ
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07-14-2019, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 35SF
State: Missouri
Posts: 740
THOR #2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkoldman
From the way I read it from this site, from the victims and the the seasoned veterans who know these matters well inside and out, it is reads more on the responsibility of buyers to find all of these matters before buying and NOT completing sale until the PDI is completely finished? Buyers should then expect to fix the issues they can or understand that there will be issues missed and/or new ones as that is the way the RV industry, expectations of more seem to be tabu?
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We had issues with ours but we did very few of the repairs on our own. We found an awesome dealer close to our house who took care of all the repairs. Even the simple ones. And they did it on our time frame. We would take it over and drop it off. They would do items on the list based on how long we could leave it. Then we would pick it up and go on our trip and make arrangements for the next session. So things are not always as bad as some people would have you think.
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07-14-2019, 05:05 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31S
State: Texas
Posts: 4,472
THOR #6411
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Having survived an engine fire in a rear engine motor coach, I would always check both emergency exits in the coach during a PDI with the PDI tech. I also make sure the DW also operates the emergency exits. You should consider the 6 ft drop to the ground if you plan to go out head first. Yes, the rear emergency exit window on a Thor, gas, class A will release from the top is opened more than about 30 degrees.
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2016 Hurricane 31S
1961 Rampside in tow
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07-14-2019, 05:53 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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If it ever came down to the fact that I had to use that window to get out of my RV: the last thing I'd worry about, would be breaking it...
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-14-2019, 07:00 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 6,796
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
If it ever came down to the fact that I had to use that window to get out of my RV: the last thing I'd worry about, would be breaking it...
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I don't think it is so much about a worrying about true emergency need to get out an RV versus possibly having to spend $1,000 to replace, but the fact that some may not be aware that if you open some emergency windows in an RV, there is good chance that it may be broken during the process and cost up to $1,000 replace?
There are stickers all over emergency doors that say if you open an alarm will sound. Maybe industry could consider....
1. Sticker that warns Emergency use only. Glass will/may break in cases of any use.
2 Redesign to use non breakable glass, or such that window can flip up or down flush with the outside to be fully open to allow escape.
It reminds me of new tolls roads that constantly popping up in Dallas. I get don't get on the tolls if you don't wish to pay, but every time I find myself on one, it is because the signs were too confusing to figure out in the few seconds a decision need to be made. I get a bill in the mail every time but my bill is never because I wanted to use the toll road. Makes me wonder how many thousands of others making the same mistake every day and how many $ millions the North Texas Tollway Authority makes off people that didn't know or got confused and took the wrong path? i.e. you may see a sign that says HOV 2+ only. You got 2 people; so you take and life is good. 3 months later bill shows up and you don't even remember where you where or were you were going. Turns out some of HOV 2+ toll requires you to pre-register online and some don't, but they don't clarify which?
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07-14-2019, 07:23 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: SOB 2014 Meridian 36M
State: Washington
Posts: 981
THOR #7205
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I had no idea they were designed to "Fallout" when opened! I've been propping ours open with a broom handle while working in the bedroom area! DOH!!
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Wenatchee, WA
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07-14-2019, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 6,796
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pstandiford
We had issues with ours but we did very few of the repairs on our own. We found an awesome dealer close to our house who took care of all the repairs. Even the simple ones. And they did it on our time frame. We would take it over and drop it off. They would do items on the list based on how long we could leave it. Then we would pick it up and go on our trip and make arrangements for the next session. So things are not always as bad as some people would have you think.
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You are in very fortunate and best situation. The company that I have rented RV's from in the past is a Thor dealer for Service, but not sales. He knows I am looking to buy and have tried to get me to buy some of his used RVs. I kind of like and want to do some repairs; that is why I wish to keep my RV at my house. But no matter how much money I may have, I don't like having to throw money at a problem that should not exist.
But I agree " things are not always as bad as some people would have you think" If I didn't believe that, I have run as fast as I could & not be on this forum interested to buy and RV.
About 10 years ago I researched and researched pressure washers for a boat. I decided on a Husky from Home Depot, started reading the reviews on Home Depot's site and 80% of customers trashed the product, it had a very low rating some claiming it didn't work out the box, leaking after 1st use, or simply no pressure at all etc. But because the price was so good, I called Home Depot Customer Service to find out how, why they could be selling a product that was rated so bad? They said the stood behind their product and reminded me it had 2 year warranty for free replacement no questions asked. I bought it and 10 years later I still have that pressure washer. I did buy a new one, but only because I wanted the new colored nozzle system to change the angles on the fly. I use the Husky for heavy duty work.
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07-14-2019, 09:20 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Siesta Sprinter 24ST
State: Florida
Posts: 608
THOR #2812
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There are 2 types of emergency egress windows. Thor manual recommends opening the windows twice a year to keep the seals from sticking to the window. Some open and fall away others are hinged at the top and need to prop open to get out.
My Siesta the egress window releases at the top (falls away) when opened about 45 degrees or greater. I can open part way and clean the seals.. I do from the outside just in case.
Another thread recommended placing a pillow or the corner of the mattress on the window frame as a cushion in the event of actual egress. Feet first of course.
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Pensacola, Florida
2016 Siesta 24ST
1972 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
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08-31-2019, 01:31 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Siesta Sprinter 24ST
State: Florida
Posts: 608
THOR #2812
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Update. My emergency windows DO NOT release at the top when opened. I finally realized that there is slight resistance at about 45 degrees open, they can go to 90 degrees and do not release.
Sorry about the bum info.
Of course you should check your egress windows when you clean the gaskets..
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Pensacola, Florida
2016 Siesta 24ST
1972 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
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