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02-28-2019, 08:47 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 35SB
State: Florida
Posts: 19
THOR #12099
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Ford 6.7 doesn't start
Hi guys, First time, long time.
I should have posted this here. Sorry.
We have a Super C 35SB and when I turn the key to start it........nothing. A very slight click under the hood but that's it. The two engine batteries read 12.8V and adding in the house batteries doesn't make any difference.
I'm thinking loose connection?
Thoughts?
Places to look?
TIA
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02-28-2019, 09:02 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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Are you breaking down camp or heading out on new trip? Jacks up? Slides in? Give us a little background on where you are and what happened just before this. You can try wiggling the shifter a little while trying to crank...could be the "park lockout" switch. Also try cranking it in "N".
When you post something here, stay online for a bit...there's always a troll or two with a fire extinguisher. Folks want to help but don't want to hang out waiting on you to come back...nor do we want one of our family sitting in the middle of the highway with an emergency.
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02-28-2019, 09:18 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 35SB
State: Florida
Posts: 19
THOR #12099
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
Are you breaking down camp or heading out on new trip? Jacks up? Slides in? Give us a little background on where you are and what happened just before this. You can try wiggling the shifter a little while trying to crank...could be the "park lockout" switch. Also try cranking it in "N".
When you post something here, stay online for a bit...there's always a troll or two with a fire extinguisher. Folks want to help but don't want to hang out waiting on you to come back...nor do we want one of our family sitting in the middle of the highway with an emergency.
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Thanks Gritz!
In order to put down the levelers it has to be running, so I went to restart it after walking the dog, to do that.
I haven't done anything yet. Just arrived. No slideout, awning, nothing.
I hear a very small click under the hood, but not the kind of starter solenoid noise I would expect. But this is my first diesel and I'm a little uncertain.
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02-28-2019, 09:20 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 35SB
State: Florida
Posts: 19
THOR #12099
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royalt1
Thanks Gritz!
In order to put down the levelers it has to be running, so I went to restart it after walking the dog, to do that.
I haven't done anything yet. Just arrived. No slideout, awning, nothing.
I hear a very small click under the hood, but not the kind of starter solenoid noise I would expect. But this is my first diesel and I'm a little uncertain.
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Oh, and we've been traveling for a week with no issues and have just arrived at this park in Gulfport Mississippi
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02-28-2019, 09:23 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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Is parking brake on?
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02-28-2019, 09:28 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 35SB
State: Florida
Posts: 19
THOR #12099
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royalt1
Thanks Gritz!
In order to put down the levelers it has to be running, so I went to restart it after walking the dog, to do that.
I haven't done anything yet. Just arrived. No slideout, awning, nothing.
I hear a very small click under the hood, but not the kind of starter solenoid noise I would expect. But this is my first diesel and I'm a little uncertain.
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I tried moving the shifter and in neutral. No luck.
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02-28-2019, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
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THOR #11130
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I'm at a loss here. Maybe call a Ford dealer near you...ask for service manager...maybe they can tell you a few things to check over the phone.
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02-28-2019, 09:40 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 35SB
State: Florida
Posts: 19
THOR #12099
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
I'm at a loss here. Maybe call a Ford dealer near you...ask for service manager...maybe they can tell you a few things to check over the phone.
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Thanks, will do.
I made sure that the slideout was as in as it could be and did the same for the awning
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02-28-2019, 10:12 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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You might want to pop the hood and look for a breaker near the chassis battery--Thor seems to put those on every battery. A small black box with a red button on it. If there is a yellow "flag" showing, push it back in.
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02-28-2019, 10:29 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 35SB
State: Florida
Posts: 19
THOR #12099
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieGeek
You might want to pop the hood and look for a breaker near the chassis battery--Thor seems to put those on every battery. A small black box with a red button on it. If there is a yellow "flag" showing, push it back in.
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Will do, thx!
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02-28-2019, 10:36 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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you have 2 chassis batteries, remember. Also, have you had any DEF warning lights or messages?
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02-28-2019, 11:46 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 35SB
State: Florida
Posts: 19
THOR #12099
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
you have 2 chassis batteries, remember. Also, have you had any DEF warning lights or messages?
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I don't see the fuse blocks mentioned on either one. Nothing unusual on the dashboard except no glow plug symbol lit?
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02-28-2019, 11:53 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Have you checked to make sure that all of the connections to the batteries are good & tight?
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03-01-2019, 02:24 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: FourWinds SK 35
State: Virginia
Posts: 251
THOR #4706
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Try starting the generator let the batteries charge see if that helps also check water level in batteries good luck let us know what the fix was
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03-01-2019, 11:54 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royalt1
I don't see the fuse blocks mentioned on either one. Nothing unusual on the dashboard except no glow plug symbol lit?
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There's your clue...that light (as you know) should only come on for a second or two and hardly at all if the weather is reasonable warm. If it stays on, it's telling you pre-ignition is not hot enough yet...a result of not enough juice in the batteries. Sounds like it's a battery related issue. As advised, let generator run a while or see if someone around you has a vehicle with enough battery power to jump you. As it's now early morning, you've probably already done this. Looking forward to your update.
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03-01-2019, 01:18 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 35SB
State: Florida
Posts: 19
THOR #12099
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
There's your clue...that light (as you know) should only come on for a second or two and hardly at all if the weather is reasonable warm. If it stays on, it's telling you pre-ignition is not hot enough yet...a result of not enough juice in the batteries. Sounds like it's a battery related issue. As advised, let generator run a while or see if someone around you has a vehicle with enough battery power to jump you. As it's now early morning, you've probably already done this. Looking forward to your update.
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I have a solar system with four house batteries at 13.7V that I can connect in case the engine batteries get low. When I do this it makes no difference.
The engine batteries connections are tight and they are showing those green eyes. I'll take readings this morning.
I put the slide out overnight so I have to bring it back in this morning so the lockout doesn't effect our next attempt.
I have a local mechanic coming at eight and will report back.
I know there's a switch to stop you from starting the engine if the slide or awning is out. Are there any others? We're only a week on the road and I have had a hard time getting specific info on this model, even from Thor tech help. I guess they didn't get much passed along when they took over.
Thanks again guys.
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03-01-2019, 01:30 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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Super C's are new and lots of people "up there" have lots to learn about them. I took the factory tour in December and was pleased to see the future of this model in their eyes. Lots to come!! Other than the Ford chassis, this coach body is nearly the same as some of the bigger A's with the same brand components, so many of those guys can chime in as well on issues rear of the driver's seat. Sorry for your issues. I'm very interested in knowing the resolution. I think you've tapped out most of what could cause the problem. Slides must be in, jacks must be up, etc. Curious...you mentioned 4 batteries...this came with 2 6V's, right? Where did you install the other two?
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03-01-2019, 01:35 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Could this be a problem with the starter, or the solenoid?
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03-01-2019, 01:37 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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Just another thought...have you "unplugged" the slides at the controller and re-plug them (two white outside wires on control module)...maybe a reset? They say you can push another button somewhere 6 times and hold it on the 7th for a few seconds until the lights blink or something like that. Again, someone will come in the room soon that knows that process. It could be the slide lock out feature as you mentioned. Unplugging the white wires as above will allow the slides to be pushed in and out manually...it unlocks the motors. Plugging them back in will lock the motors back. Make coffee for the mechanic now...25 till!!
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03-01-2019, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Thor Outlaw 29H
State: Tennessee
Posts: 668
THOR #13869
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I like Bob's thinking on the connections, only I am thinking the other end.
Have you checked cable connections at cable end not at battery?
Just a thought.
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