Ford V10 Oil Change

[10scDust]

My thinking here...
I never had understood why to change oil after a year old, even if miles have not been met.
Logic tells me: if new oil can sit for a year on a shelf in a container, never used, did it go bad?
I do not think so.

Somewhere along the way, I was told it was not good to run an engine for a few minutes every so often, when storing for month, or months at a time.
Because of the by products produced by an internal combustion engine and condensate accumulation within the crank case.
It is better to run until hot, like half hour or more, to get oil to temperatures enough to boil the water out, and rid through the EGR valve, or a breather on some engines.

I have never experienced a castatrophic engine failure doing it the way I do.
I still have one motorcycle I put over 168,000 miles on, and still running strong.

Like I said, how I approach it, and how I roll with it.
Mfr recommends 3K, I wait for 5K miles.
I have also been told changing the filters are more important, including the air filter!

[abjbrtd]

Originally Posted by 10scDust

My thinking here...
I never had understood why to change oil after a year old, even if miles have not been met.
Logic tells me: if new oil can sit for a year on a shelf in a container, never used, did it go bad?
I do not think so.

Somewhere along the way, I was told it was not good to run an engine for a few minutes every so often, when storing for month, or months at a time.
Because of the by products produced by an internal combustion engine and condensate accumulation within the crank case.
It is better to run until hot, like half hour or more, to get oil to temperatures enough to boil the water out, and rid through the EGR valve, or a breather on some engines.

I have never experienced a castatrophic engine failure doing it the way I do.
I still have one motorcycle I put over 168,000 miles on, and still running strong.

Like I said, how I approach it, and how I roll with it.
Mfr recommends 3K, I wait for 5K miles.
I have also been told changing the filters are more important, including the air filter!

Here's the answer to your question.

"Because of the by products produced by an internal combustion engine and condensate accumulation within the crank case.
It is better to run until hot, like half hour or more, to get oil to temperatures enough to boil the water out,"

It doesn't matter how long you run the motor, 5 min or all day, as soon as you turn it off water will start condensing as the motor cools.
The dipstick in our lightly used Citation (3k miles) had rust on it because it had set on the dealer lot unluved for months.

[Glensouth]

I run Amsoil in all vehicle, including my Harley. I usually change after two years or 10,000 miles. I didn’t put many miles on any of my vehicles, my 99 Jeep has 164,000 miles and running strong, my America Eagle had 137,000 miles when I traded it, my wife’s 97 Buick has 44,000 miles and all running strong. I just change oil filter at 5000 miles. When my current motorhome is due a oil change, I will go to Amsoil. Great product!

[Pete'sMH]

Originally Posted by Glensouth

I run Amsoil in all vehicle, including my Harley. I usually change after two years or 10,000 miles. I didn’t put many miles on any of my vehicles, my 99 Jeep has 164,000 miles and running strong, my America Eagle had 137,000 miles when I traded it, my wife’s 97 Buick has 44,000 miles and all running strong. I just change oil filter at 5000 miles. When my current motorhome is due a oil change, I will go to Amsoil. Great product!

I had a Chevrolet Volt which only rarely used its engine. The owners manual and the on board oil monitoring require changing oil every two years. That said I change annually regardless or about 5000 miles. I believe that all oil in use has water and contaminants that differentiates it from oil in its original sealed container. It’s cheap enough “insurance”. I use Mobil 1 and it costs about $45 with a premium filter.

[16ACE27]

Originally Posted by 10scDust

My thinking here...

Mfr recommends 3K, I wait for 5K miles.

Which "mfr"?

I had a 2005 Scion Xb which lit the oil change light at 5000 miles, At the first oil change I went to full synthetic and ran at least 15K miles between oil changes. It had 237K mile on it when I sold it 2 years ago and still going strong.

My Chevy Sonic lights the oil change light at 7500 miles. I doing the same routine with it; 60K+ miles so far and driving just like new.

[petefoss]

Originally Posted by Tfryman

Which "mfr"?

I had a 2005 Scion Xb which lit the oil change light at 5000 miles, At the first oil change I went to full synthetic and ran at least 15K miles between oil changes. It had 237K mile on it when I sold it 2 years ago and still going strong.

My Chevy Sonic lights the oil change light at 7500 miles. I doing the same routine with it; 60K+ miles so far and driving just like new.

All GM products use an algorithm to define oil change interval. It's based on a lot if variables that depend on how you drive. I ran about 70 miles per day and would usually ping at about 5000 miles. Friends who lived closer would ping at 3000 miles with the same vehicle. The only exception I know of was Volt which had a 2 year time clock superimposed on the algorithm.

[Kake95]

Hi Guys,
On your F-53 V10 3valve oil changes would you use a Mobile 1 Oil Filter, Wix filter or your recommendation? Thx.

[16ACE27]

Originally Posted by petefoss

All GM products use an algorithm to define oil change interval. It's based on a lot if variables that depend on how you drive. I ran about 70 miles per day and would usually ping at about 5000 miles. Friends who lived closer would ping at 3000 miles with the same vehicle. The only exception I know of was Volt which had a 2 year time clock superimposed on the algorithm.

Well then I must be a very consistent driver because as I said, my Chevy Sonic nags me for an oil change every 7500 miles.

[Glensouth]

My Cummings manual reccomends 15,000 miles on the 8.3 isl engine.

[Pete'sMH]

My Volt used to pipe up every two years regardless of mileage!

[halfprice]

Originally Posted by Kake95

Hi Guys,
On your F-53 V10 3valve oil changes would you use a Mobile 1 Oil Filter, Wix filter or your recommendation? Thx.

i use stock ford filters now but wix and mobile 1 filter highly rated from my limited research

[Kake95]

Thanks Jerry. I just want something that will last a year between oil changes. I don’t take long trips right now. Retirement for me is years away!

[jnschnit]

I use the recommended Ford Motorcraft filer and Mobil 1 oil. Buy both at Walmart.

[Muggs]

I change oil every 4,000 to 5,000 on our e450 based Vegas. Get Motorcraft oil and filter at Walmart. Easy job and I grease all fittings I can find.

I live in Florida when temp swings cause moisture buildup in everything. My Chevy small blocks in drag cars take 10 minutes of steam out breathers to get accumulated moisture out of oil.

I have never had an oil related breakdown in any engine and most of my street vehicles last over 200,000 miles. The relatively low cost of oil changes make it very attractive for longevity. Short idle periods are not good, if you start it allow it to run up to full temperature a bit.

When we bought our RV, it was used and over a year old with less than 2,000 miles. It still had original oil and filter from factory. It was reasonably clean but I wanted my own baseline.

Only my opinion, but it has worked for me.

[petefoss]

Originally Posted by Pete'sMH

My Volt used to pipe up every two years regardless of mileage!

Yup that was hard coded over ride because low engine usage.

[petefoss]

Is there a map of where the grease fittings are on the E450 chassis?

[gmc]

Originally Posted by petefoss

Is there a map of where the grease fittings are on the E450 chassis?

This help? dated 2005 but guessing hasn't changed much.
A bunch fewer than the F53.

[The_Breeze]

Originally Posted by petefoss

Is there a map of where the grease fittings are on the E450 chassis?

Just quick FYI - they did that for me at Walmart. It was part of the oil change. They charged me $55 in Marana, AZ for Mobile 1 synthetic. The only downside? They used a Fram filter. I used them on all my street rods without a problem but heard they've gone downhill since then.

[Kake95]

Originally Posted by TheBreeze

Just quick FYI - they did that for me at Walmart. It was part of the oil change. They charged me $55 in Marana, AZ for Mobile 1 synthetic. The only downside? They used a Fram filter. I used them on all my street rods without a problem but heard they've gone downhill since then.

This $55 oil change was for for a Class C E-series chassis?

[The_Breeze]

Originally Posted by Kake95

This $55 oil change was for for a Class C E-series chassis?

yes - e450. 7 qts, filter, lube. Was right off I-10 in Marana