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Old 02-29-2020, 03:04 PM   #1
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My 2017 Axis AC compressor is leaking

I was going to post something a month ago but I waited until Ford told me exactly what was wrong before I posted anything.

Back in January I noticed two quarter size puddles under my RV in the storage unit. When I wiped it up with paper towels I saw that it was a very yellow, little to no odor and not very slick like motor oil would be.

I looked under my Axis and the twin I beams were covered and dripping and it had sprayed back on the oil pan for some time.

So I looked around with a flash light and checked all fluids, pumped the brakes etc. Everything looked fine until I saw some fresh drips comming off the AC compressor.

I made an appt at my local Ford dealer this week and dropped it off last WED @ 7 am. But the dealer always had something "more important" to work on for two days (even though I had an appt for WED 8am) so finally at 5:00 pm FRI (Yesterday) they told me what was wrong and that I could pickup my RV while the compressor was on order (Would take 3 days before it arrived).

Luckily my Axis was NOT out of Warrentee (Expires this April / 9005 miles on it) and they qouted me $1384 for the repair job (If it was not covered).

So I will bring her back this coming WED (as long as the part is in).

I will update you all once it done. I sure hope they get this job done right the first time and it lasts longer than 3 years otherwise or I will be very upset.
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Old 03-02-2020, 12:39 AM   #2
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I was going to post something a month ago but I waited until Ford told me exactly what was wrong before I posted anything.

Back in January I noticed two quarter size puddles under my RV in the storage unit. When I wiped it up with paper towels I saw that it was a very yellow, little to no odor and not very slick like motor oil would be.

I looked under my Axis and the twin I beams were covered and dripping and it had sprayed back on the oil pan for some time.

So I looked around with a flash light and checked all fluids, pumped the brakes etc. Everything looked fine until I saw some fresh drips comming off the AC compressor.

I made an appt at my local Ford dealer this week and dropped it off last WED @ 7 am. But the dealer always had something "more important" to work on for two days (even though I had an appt for WED 8am) so finally at 5:00 pm FRI (Yesterday) they told me what was wrong and that I could pickup my RV while the compressor was on order (Would take 3 days before it arrived).

Luckily my Axis was NOT out of Warrentee (Expires this April / 9005 miles on it) and they qouted me $1384 for the repair job (If it was not covered).

So I will bring her back this coming WED (as long as the part is in).

I will update you all once it done. I sure hope they get this job done right the first time and it lasts longer than 3 years otherwise or I will be very upset.
Since the AC/HEAT seems to be a mix of FORD and THOR, the A/C compressor is part of the E-450 FORD chassis?
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Old 03-02-2020, 12:46 AM   #3
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Maybe it's just me but while it was apart I'd have them tell me the price for a vastly upgraded alternator or the dual alternator kit.
Labor has already been done, you'd be in the upgrade for parts only.
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Old 03-02-2020, 02:37 AM   #4
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Not to change the subject of this thread...

But...
The stock/OEM 120 Amp alternator is minimal.
However, a new Motorcraft 225 Amp will be nearly $500 for the part only. And if Ford is installing, theyíll require Motorcraft.

Itís unfortunate that they undersized the alternator in these rigs (E350/450 = 120 Amp, F53 = 155 Amp)

As discussed in other threads, the future of RVís is no generators, but rather high output alternators to run the air-conditioner and charge the lithium batteries for a 3000 watt inverter.
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Old 03-02-2020, 03:27 AM   #5
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Not to change the subject of this thread...

But...
The stock/OEM 120 Amp alternator is minimal.
However, a new Motorcraft 225 Amp will be nearly $500 for the part only. And if Ford is installing, theyíll require Motorcraft.

Itís unfortunate that they undersized the alternator in these rigs (E350/450 = 120 Amp, F53 = 155 Amp)

As discussed in other threads, the future of RVís is no generators, but rather high output alternators to run the air-conditioner and charge the lithium batteries for a 3000 watt inverter.
The F-53 chassis has had a 175 amp alternator since 2016. In 2020 the specs read 210 amp std and 240 amps optional
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Old 03-02-2020, 04:08 AM   #6
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I'd pay the $500.
I might even go for two of them if the double mount was under $500.
$1500, I sell the onan to recoup some, neaten up the wiring considerably, lose the threat of a carb rebuild, and open up 2x2x4...16cft? of storage where the generator was all while losing 200lbs on the rear end.

The op knows what it costs if Ford wouldn't pay for the repair. If they do pay for it, I can wrangle my mind to go
WOOHOO! FREE UPGRADES!
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Old 03-02-2020, 04:08 AM   #7
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The F-53 chassis has had a 175 amp alternator since 2016. In 2020 the specs read 210 amp std and 240 amps optional
Thanks for clarifying.
However, itís unfortunate that there doesnít seem to be a mechanism to ďupgradeĒ alternators from Thor for Vegas/Axis models.
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Old 03-02-2020, 01:13 PM   #8
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Back to the failed AC compressor

Very odd that the AC would leak.
Iíve owned 10 Fords throughout my life, and never had an AC leak.
However, 8 of those 10 experienced a failed transmission.
The THOR Forum has not discussed tranny failure on the E450 chassis, so my fingers are crossed that mine will be trouble free (knock on wood!).
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Old 03-03-2020, 03:18 AM   #9
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Since the AC/HEAT seems to be a mix of FORD and THOR, the A/C compressor is part of the E-450 FORD chassis?
Yep, all Ford. I think the only thing that is Thor are the duct work in the dash.
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Old 03-03-2020, 03:19 AM   #10
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Maybe it's just me but while it was apart I'd have them tell me the price for a vastly upgraded alternator or the dual alternator kit.
Labor has already been done, you'd be in the upgrade for parts only.
Not a bad Idea but im sure Ford wont pay for that upgrade. Im happy with the way my RV is setup ..... Beside it (Dual Alt or one HD one) will give me a reason to upgrade to a newer RV down the road.
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Old 03-05-2020, 11:38 PM   #11
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Repair is complete....All under the Ford Warrantee. I asked if it had a "one year Warrantee on parts and installation" and they replied "Two Years". Thats Awesome.

I was a little bit nervous dropping my RV off....The last time I took my RV to CW (2 years ago) the house battery was dead, everything was dirty inside the RV, and half the work was not done.

I just did a thorough inspection inside and out. Everything looks great! So I crawled under the RV to clean up the oiliy mess this old compressor left under the RV and it was 98% cleaned Already. I was shocked. But a good shocked.

Its colder than it was when I checked two years ago and last summer. My portable vent temp gauge dropped to 40 deg!

While I was in the shop I had them check the front end alinement (first one this RV every had - only 9000 miles on it). The toe in was off slightly.

I made sure the RV was loaded like it would be for a trip (minus the food and Water). I even put about 250# of weight in the bedroom to offset the emtpy water tank.
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