Oil Change Question - 2021 Ford F53 V8 (ACE 33.1)

[IDguy]

Originally Posted by ador

IDguy, when you said “fill through the dip stick”, are you referring to the photo and description based on the picture above?

I posted a different picture of the “second print” of the manual, which I believe have the correct location of the oil filler cap. I haven’t done my oil change yet as it is very windy today. I will post my result when I am done.

The video link you posted is for the V10 engine F53. I have the newer V8 engine. I guess thats why I am having a difficult time finding video on the oil change for the same engine model.

That is what I said but pic shows separate oil fill cap. I’ll take a look. Mine is V10.

[Bill Johnson]

Originally Posted by ador

Just want to ask if anyone had done their own oil change on their 2021 Ford F53 V8 chasis (ACE 33.1). I would like to do my first oil change before I tow our car for the first time, on a tow dolly. My RV now have 6K miles. I have done my own oil change on my previous Class C (E450).

I looked at the 2020 Ford F53 manual that I downloaded on the THOR owners website. It only showed "how to measure oil", "how to add oil", and oil capacity. No actual instruction on how to remove/replace the oil filter.

Any thoughts or suggestions on the location of the oil filter and drain plug? The level of difficulty???

I am thinking of going to Ford Dealership and give them my VIN so I can purchase the oil filter and correct oil grade.

Thanks.

The oil filter on mine is on the drivers side right above the tie rod, just unscrew it like any other oil filter and have a pan under it without the wind blowing. The pan bolt is in plain sight. If you did the V10 this is just like it. Don't forget to torque the pan bolt

[ador]

Hey Bill. I see that you also have a ACE 33.1 Is your V8 like mine? Or V10? I am having a difficult time locating the “oil filler cap”. I think I may have finally located it, based on the “second print manual” i posted above. I just want to make sure I pour the replacement oil in the correct filler hole. The original printed manual that came with my RV have questionable information. Then I came across a second printed version from Ford website, which made more sense and looked correct. (The dealership I bought the RV from is No Help at all).

[Bill Johnson]

Originally Posted by ador

Hey Bill. I see that you also have a ACE 33.1 Is your V8 like mine? Or V10? I am having a difficult time locating the “oil filler cap”. I think I may have finally located it, based on the “second print manual” i posted above. I just want to make sure I pour the replacement oil in the correct filler hole. The original printed manual that came with my RV have questionable information. Then I came across a second printed version from Ford website, which made more sense and looked correct. (The dealership I bought the RV from is No Help at all).

Yes I have the 7.3 v8 and I was under it a few weeks ago installing a steering stabilizer and I noticed the filter and the drain plug is easy to get to. I don't have enough miles yet to change mine but I'm going away shortly so were are starting to load it today since winter. I will lift the hood up and look for the oil fill in a few minutes. My grill was loose on mine when I bought it so I replaced the nuts with the plastic insert locking nuts now it will never come loose. I use my battery 3/8 drive wrench to remove the grill any time I want it takes about 5 minutes. I'll go look now

[ador]

Thanks Bill. I will really appreciate it if you can confirm where the "oil filler cap" is really located. We are also getting ready for our June road trip. I will do a short run pulling our Mini Cooper on a tow dolly (for the first time). My RV now have over 5K miles, that is why I want to do the oil change (before I pull our car for the first time).

Also, what steering stabilizer did you install? I had to return the Roasmaster i purchased from eTrailer as the U-bracket will not fit.

Here are the picture from 2 manuals:

INCORRECT PICTURE DESCRIPTION - ORIGINAL MANUAL ***Please look at the description of "B" and "F"***


SECOND PRINT OF THE MANUAL - LOOKED CORRECT

[Bill Johnson]

Originally Posted by ador

Hey Bill. I see that you also have a ACE 33.1 Is your V8 like mine? Or V10? I am having a difficult time locating the “oil filler cap”. I think I may have finally located it, based on the “second print manual” i posted above. I just want to make sure I pour the replacement oil in the correct filler hole. The original printed manual that came with my RV have questionable information. Then I came across a second printed version from Ford website, which made more sense and looked correct. (The dealership I bought the RV from is No Help at all).

Okay the oil fill is on the drivers side up near the top. look for the big rectangle box in the front it is just to the right of that. I have never removed the inside engine cover, If it is easy to remove it might be easy to fill the oil there. I would go to the store and buy one of those 10 dollar pumps, they are usually black on the pump and the hoses are orange. Just pump the oil into the fill tube. I have an old car I drive and I use the pump to remove 4 quarts of transmission fluid every year and replace it with new. so far it has 200,000 and it works great. These pumps work very well and it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to pump all the oil in probably less than that

[Scubawise]

I can't find the yellow fumoto value that connects to quart and tube. ?

[Bill Johnson]

Originally Posted by ador

Thanks Bill. I will really appreciate it if you can confirm where the "oil filler cap" is really located. We are also getting ready for our June road trip. I will do a short run pulling our Mini Cooper on a tow dolly (for the first time). My RV now have over 5K miles, that is why I want to do the oil change (before I pull our car for the first time).

Also, what steering stabilizer did you install? I had to return the Roasmaster i purchased from eTrailer as the U-bracket will not fit.

Here are the picture from 2 manuals:

INCORRECT PICTURE DESCRIPTION - ORIGINAL MANUAL ***Please look at the description of "B" and "F"***


SECOND PRINT OF THE MANUAL - LOOKED CORRECT

F on the first one e on the second. I used a mirror and it shows an icon of a container pouring oil like the one on the dash for oil pressure

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by Scubawise

I can't find the yellow fumoto value that connects to quart and tube. ?

A Gumoto Valve replaces the oil pan drain plug. What do you want or cannot find?

[ador]

OK. I finally located it. It is on the Driver Side as shown in second print manual, description E). As Bill suggested (thanks Bill), I took off the cap and there it is! Picture confirmation. I will do my oil change tomorrow as it is very windy here in Vegas for second day now.





Oil Filler Cap

[Bill Johnson]

Originally Posted by ador

OK. I finally located it. It is on the Driver Side as shown in second print manual, description E). As Bill suggested (thanks Bill), I took off the cap and there it is! Picture confirmation. I will do my oil change tomorrow as it is very windy here in Vegas for second day now.





Oil Filler Cap

I got dyslexic, it's on the drivers side like you said, I just went brain dead for a minute

[Scubawise]

Good for you still looking for my oil fill!

[Pete'sMH]

With all due respect, it just cannot be that hard to find. I suggest you take it to Ford and ask them to show you how to add oil.

[Ninjatoto]

I get my oil and filter at Wally mart one 5qt jug and 2 was of Mobil 1 5-20, a fram oil filter, also I have a large litter box base ( it’s about 14”x18”) and it’s about 4” deep. I change oil and filter without moving it and if I’m carefull, dump into a old 5 gal gas can that I demoted to a used oil container and a big wide mouth funnel.I change oil every 5000 miles give or take a little give every grease zerks a couple pumps of grease and take a peek at the air filter( that is a SOB) and a whole other job of its own.

[CHRIS1u]

Aside from the specifics of the oil change on your specific rig, it's been my practice, for any oil filter replacement:


1. Fill the new filter with oil, so that when the engine is first started it immediately has a supply of lubricating oil. You'll note that the oil pressure is zilch in the first starting moment.


2. Apply a smear of oil on the rubber gasket on the filter...it goes on and comes off easier, seals better.


3. Don't overtighten the filter. Many manuals call for hand tightening.


4. If the filter does get overtightened and presents a removal problem, I have found the rubber strap wrenches (often also used for plumbing applications) work better than steel band style filter wrenches.

[Scubawise]

Called Thor today ..it is under the dog house!!!

[Bill Johnson]

Originally Posted by Ninjatoto

I get my oil and filter at Wally mart one 5qt jug and 2 was of Mobil 1 5-20, a fram oil filter, also I have a large litter box base ( it’s about 14”x18”) and it’s about 4” deep. I change oil and filter without moving it and if I’m carefull, dump into a old 5 gal gas can that I demoted to a used oil container and a big wide mouth funnel.I change oil every 5000 miles give or take a little give every grease zerks a couple pumps of grease and take a peek at the air filter( that is a SOB) and a whole other job of its own.

Also Walmart takes all my old oil. By us we have Meijer stores and their Mobil 1 goes on sale for less than Walmart, sometimes I get the oil for 20 dollars for 5 quarts.

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by Scubawise

Called Thor today ..it is under the dog house!!!

And that is why a standard E series or Class C on a cutaway have a clamp on doghouse with 3 or 4 clamps.

Been that way since the first Econolines rolled out of the plant. Not broke why fix it.

[ador]

Finally did the oil change yesterday. Easy task to do. The only thing that took some time was when I was filling it back up. The oil spout that Pete suggested did the trick (thanks Pete). I had to cut the spout couple of inches, stick about 1-2 inch into the engine oil filler, and slowly pour/squeeze the bottle. (I only poured 7.5 quarts. Started the engine and let it run for few minutes. Stopped the engine and waited 30 minutes. Dip stick showed "barely" at the bottom of the ridges. I will use the RV for a short trip and re-measure. I will add the remaining 0.5 quart if needed).

[Bill Johnson]

Originally Posted by ador

Finally did the oil change yesterday. Easy task to do. The only thing that took some time was when I was filling it back up. The oil spout that Pete suggested did the trick (thanks Pete). I had to cut the spout couple of inches, stick about 1-2 inch into the engine oil filler, and slowly pour/squeeze the bottle. (I only poured 7.5 quarts. Started the engine and let it run for few minutes. Stopped the engine and waited 30 minutes. Dip stick showed "barely" at the bottom of the ridges. I will use the RV for a short trip and re-measure. I will add the remaining 0.5 quart if needed).

Great job, wouldn't it be nice if Ford put an oil fill lower on the engine knowing it was going into a motorhome.