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Old 07-24-2020, 04:27 PM   #41
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I've been critical of how cheaply made $80,000 RV's are and this is another example. I have 11K miles on my ACE and the upholstery on the captains chairs and the main seating began peeling months ago.

CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP

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Old 07-24-2020, 04:47 PM   #42
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I've been critical of how cheaply made $80,000 RV's are and this is another example. I have 11K miles on my ACE and the upholstery on the captains chairs and the main seating began peeling months ago.

CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP
Very common problem but not necessarily the RV company....more like the company that supplies the furniture and more specifically, the company that makes the vinyl, RV company is at fault for continuing to buy from substandard vendors....works with tires too. We just had the sofa, dinette cushions and captain's chairs reupholstered with fabric. Only 8K on a 2016.
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Old 07-24-2020, 05:01 PM   #43
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Very common problem but not necessarily the RV company....more like the company that supplies the furniture and more specifically, the company that makes the vinyl, RV company is at fault for continuing to buy from substandard vendors....works with tires too. We just had the sofa, dinette cushions and captain's chairs reupholstered with fabric. Only 8K on a 2016.
Fact of the matter is however it got in the RV it's cheap material. I'm still paying off a loan on an $80,000 vehicle that now I have to spend $8K more to put better quality upholstery that doesn't fall apart?
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Old 07-24-2020, 05:29 PM   #44
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Fact of the matter is however it got in the RV it's cheap material. I'm still paying off a loan on an $80,000 vehicle that now I have to spend $8K more to put better quality upholstery that doesn't fall apart?
It's been addressed 100 to 1,000 times on this forum.
My couch in my home did the same thing.
This forum has supplied links to the class action lawsuit.

It's a single sour apple in a very large barrel.
It wasn't a personal vendetta against low end rv buyers.
It was a WORLDWIDE supplier catching a bad batch of chemicals or formula for a relatively short time period.

You knew the warranty on the coach when you bought it.
You were offered, or could have bought through the internet, an extended warranty on fabrics.
Unless it all went bad within the warranty period you agreed to, and you were told to go away we won't honor our warranty, you have absolutely no complaint.

Things happen. This thing happened worldwide.

How long outside of the warranty you agreed to is realistic?

If the dealer came back to you right now and said:
'I know we agreed to $80k over 120 months, but we have decided to add 12 more months onto the end of the contract.' what would you say?
You would exactly say 'NO! it's not what we agreed on!'

I hated it too.
It just cost me $8,000 for a new house couch.
We received the last section just yesterday (we had to send it back to have a sewing mistake reworked).

But
I know it's on me.
I knew the job was dangerous when I took it.

My two suggestions about the repair you need:
$8,000 is twice to three times higher than most here say they paid.
Lots of catalog stores make lots of slip-on/tuck in covers.
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Old 07-24-2020, 05:56 PM   #45
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It's been addressed 100 to 1,000 times on this forum.
My couch in my home did the same thing.
This forum has supplied links to the class action lawsuit.

It's a single sour apple in a very large barrel.
It wasn't a personal vendetta against low end rv buyers.
It was a WORLDWIDE supplier catching a bad batch of chemicals or formula for a relatively short time period.

You knew the warranty on the coach when you bought it.
You were offered, or could have bought through the internet, an extended warranty on fabrics.
Unless it all went bad within the warranty period you agreed to, and you were told to go away we won't honor our warranty, you have absolutely no complaint.

Things happen. This thing happened worldwide.

How long outside of the warranty you agreed to is realistic?

If the dealer came back to you right now and said:
'I know we agreed to $80k over 120 months, but we have decided to add 12 more months onto the end of the contract.' what would you say?
You would exactly say 'NO! it's not what we agreed on!'

I hated it too.
It just cost me $8,000 for a new house couch.
We received the last section just yesterday (we had to send it back to have a sewing mistake reworked).

But
I know it's on me.
I knew the job was dangerous when I took it.

My two suggestions about the repair you need:
$8,000 is twice to three times higher than most here say they paid.
Lots of catalog stores make lots of slip-on/tuck in covers.
Good summary, almost all the coach builders had this issue in the time period
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Old 07-24-2020, 06:16 PM   #46
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I agree: thank you for giving us the "back-story" on this one!
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Old 07-24-2020, 07:30 PM   #47
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It's been addressed 100 to 1,000 times on this forum.
My couch in my home did the same thing.
This forum has supplied links to the class action lawsuit.

It's a single sour apple in a very large barrel.
It wasn't a personal vendetta against low end rv buyers.
It was a WORLDWIDE supplier catching a bad batch of chemicals or formula for a relatively short time period.

You knew the warranty on the coach when you bought it.
You were offered, or could have bought through the internet, an extended warranty on fabrics.
Unless it all went bad within the warranty period you agreed to, and you were told to go away we won't honor our warranty, you have absolutely no complaint.

Things happen. This thing happened worldwide.

How long outside of the warranty you agreed to is realistic?

If the dealer came back to you right now and said:
'I know we agreed to $80k over 120 months, but we have decided to add 12 more months onto the end of the contract.' what would you say?
You would exactly say 'NO! it's not what we agreed on!'

I hated it too.
It just cost me $8,000 for a new house couch.
We received the last section just yesterday (we had to send it back to have a sewing mistake reworked).

But
I know it's on me.
I knew the job was dangerous when I took it.

My two suggestions about the repair you need:
$8,000 is twice to three times higher than most here say they paid.
Lots of catalog stores make lots of slip-on/tuck in covers.
Every topic in this forum has been mentioned 100-1000 times...

I guess when my dinette table fell off and crushed my daughter's foot while we were driving or water began leaking into the RV walls from leaky windows (plural), these were just aberrations as well.. my bad.

My F-250 truck has 230K miles on it and it's 11 years old... the upholstery is just fine..
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:06 PM   #48
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Truthfully: your F-250 is old enough to have been built before this issue popped up!
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:14 PM   #49
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It sure was and it cost half as much. This is my third RV and they all have the same issues...
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:16 PM   #50
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A new full loaded Ford f350 cost as much as your motorhome but you can't take your family on a camping vacation for 2 weeks and cook ,eat ,sleep,shower, stay cool or warm,well you get the idea,. So which one is worth the $$$$ ?
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:19 PM   #51
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It sure was and it cost half as much. This is my third RV and they all have the same issues...
Instead of continuing to make yourself miserable with RVs: you should sell it, and find something that brings joy to your and your family.
Life is too short...
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:21 PM   #52
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This will be my last post on this issue. I have an F250 and it's not fully loaded, cost me $40K my Thor cost me $80K.

RV is great when there are no problems. I wouldn't be on my third RV if I didn't enjoy having one, just pointing out the industry-wide issues with these things which are well-documented throughout this forum.
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:25 PM   #53
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I'm glad to hear that (When things go right...); it's been fun for you and yours!
Try to think about it this way: What would happen if you tried moving your house down the road at 60 mph on a regular basis?
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Old 07-29-2020, 07:56 PM   #54
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My 2015 Thor Miramar 34.2 has had the same issue now for the better part of a year. In that time after making many phone calls I've realized that no one will take responsibility and it's on us to take care of it for ourselves with our coaches. Having said that, I want to reupholster the two Captain seats & my Dinette. I'm in South Florida, does anybody have any one that is reputable and well recommended for this type of work in my area?
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Old 07-29-2020, 08:07 PM   #55
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I don't have a source for you in Florida, but I do have a caveat.

People on this forum have posted outrageously high amounts they've paid for the work.
Outrageous to the tune of:
They could have purchased deluxe power front seats with heat and also recliners to replace their couch for less, including installation.


Check on replacements just as you're checking on refurbishment.
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Old 07-29-2020, 08:39 PM   #56
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Thank u ducksface. I did look into replacements with Flexsteel products with a comp in Boca but they were 13-15 K for seats, dinnet & couch. Ill look into it further b4 we decide to move forward & mayb reconfigure

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Old 07-30-2020, 10:40 AM   #57
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Well after contacting Thor, I did find out that my seats are the original Mercedes Sprinter seats recovered. Of course Thor didnít offer to fix the problem. They did however direct me to the vendor they got the material from. I contacted them and all they would do is give me a quote for the exact same material. Really people? DW is not happy with any of this. Ugh.....
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Old 07-30-2020, 01:17 PM   #58
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I am a furniture manufacturer in High Point NC The trade brand is Durablend (sometimes called bonded leather (they actually mixed some crushed leather in it so it could be sold as leather lol didnt bond too well) There are several class action lawsuits in the residential furniture industry. There are multiple touch up kits on amazon but this is just masking the problem your pretty much going to have to replace it eventually. The car industry uses commercial grade uv protected vinyls and real fully died leathers. Believe it or not the frame for the sofas are decent foam is a little weak but acceptable. A typical captains chair takes 3 - 4 yards of fabric or 1.5 to two hides of leather a loveseat takes 6 to 8 yards of material (pattern no pattern reversible or not reversible cushions) so lets go with 20 yards total for coach The difference in cost between uv car or boat vinyl on wholesale level is 5 bucks a yard (direct from china). So on an 80k motorhome Thor could have put $100 more in it and we wouldnt have had this discussion
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Old 07-30-2020, 02:45 PM   #59
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We have a 2015 Miramar 34.2. Same issue as everyone. Im in S. Fl. Does anyone have experience with a shop S of W. Palm Beach?
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Old 07-30-2020, 09:01 PM   #60
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Tiffin and others have had the ultra leather issue as well in that time frame

Keep watching the Tuscany but so far looks new after 4+ years
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