View Poll Results: anyone have frequent problems with a THOR toulet backung up
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04-26-2020, 05:52 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Colorado
Posts: 8
THOR #18301
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plumbing issue
I have a Thor ACE 2018. The toilet backed up frequently. I am conservative with paper, use plenty of water, and use RV paper. The clog is fairly close to the toilet and I have to unclog with a hose. I suspect an engineering design flaw having to do with the elbows. any input or suggestions?
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04-26-2020, 06:18 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Use lots of water, and some dishwashing soap...
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04-26-2020, 06:22 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Colorado
Posts: 8
THOR #18301
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Thank you. how much soap and how often?
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04-26-2020, 07:01 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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There aren't any rules cast in stone for this. Keep a squeeze bottle of soap nearby, and just give it quick squirt with each sitting.
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04-26-2020, 07:02 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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By the way: Welcome to the forum!
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04-26-2020, 07:26 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Colorado
Posts: 8
THOR #18301
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thank you
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04-26-2020, 07:31 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Compass 23 TB
State: Ontario
Posts: 368
THOR #13224
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I have never had a sewage problem in any of my motorhomes. One thing I do twice a year is put 8 ounces of mineral oil in the grey and black tanks, it lubricates the seals and gate mechanism. If you are not in a cold climate I have heard people using coconut oil instead.
Coveman2
2018 Thor Compass 23 TB
Stay safe everyone
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04-26-2020, 07:56 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Aria 3901
State: Idaho
Posts: 720
THOR #9660
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Our last mh (second Fleetwood Southwind) backed up frequently, especially when we weren't traveling daily. Kept a piece of plastic pipe under the coach just to move things around. Happily, our Aria has never needed it.
Mike
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Vicki and Mike, Aria 3901- The Wined Up Bus, towing 16 Jeep JKUR.
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04-26-2020, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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No soap, No pipe needed. Fill the bowl with water before you sit down. It needs to look just like the one at home. Water moves the stuff around. 5 years and not one blockage. Water is the answer. Single ply household TP. My 5er went past two 45's
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2011 Keystone Sprinter 323BHS. Retired Master Electrician. All Motor Homes are RV's. All RV's are not Motor Homes.
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04-26-2020, 09:52 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 31W
State: Michigan
Posts: 542
THOR #9522
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I found that adding at least 5 gallons of water to the empty tank really helped with ours. It tends to pile up directly under the toilet otherwise.
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Pete and Carolynn Foss from Oxford, MI
2018 Four Winds 31W
1999 Aero Cub F-21 trailer
1977 Tioga 24 foot RV
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04-26-2020, 10:17 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Dynamax Isata 3 24FWSFX
State: Florida
Posts: 4,278
THOR #12751
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plumbing issue
Several suggestions.... some already made.
1. Fill bowl 3/4 full when flushing. You need to push the waste into the tank.
2. I have a black tank flush port. I fill the tank once or twice with fresh water after each dump (depending on how things look through the clear drain attachment when dumping) and then dump again to get as much out of the tank as possible.
3. After every dump / flushing we add a decomposing pod.
4. After dumping the last time from a trip I add about 5 gallon of water and then add liquid detergent and Calvin water softener (makes the water extremely slippery so things don’t stick to the tank walls). This mixes and agitates in the tank when driving.
We have not had any blockages and there is almost no odor from our tank.
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04-30-2020, 10:11 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: FourWinds SK 35
State: Virginia
Posts: 251
THOR #4706
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I had a 2017 31w that did the same thing if you look down the drain about 6” down you will see an elbow that’s what causes the problem water goes first everything else stays behind not sure what the fix is
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04-30-2020, 10:16 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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bowl must be 3/4 fill to use. Just like at home.
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2011 Keystone Sprinter 323BHS. Retired Master Electrician. All Motor Homes are RV's. All RV's are not Motor Homes.
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04-30-2020, 10:49 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 29M
State: Texas
Posts: 2,913
THOR #11781
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Yes, plenty of water for the poop and paper. The only thing I do additional is a pitcher full of water down the toilet once or twice between dumping. My toilet is on the curb side of the coach, and the tank is 'thin' on that side. The pitchers of water help move the droppings over towards the 'thick' side of the tank.
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Lt Keefer
2018 Hurricane 29M
CHF, Saf-T-Plus, SumoSprings
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05-01-2020, 01:46 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,926
THOR #1469
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5 years with the Challenger and never had a problem. Haven't taken enough trips with the Accolade to comment on its plumbing system.
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Dave
US Army (Ret)
2020 Entegra Accolade 37TS
2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk (Toad)
FMCA - F432054
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05-01-2020, 02:09 AM
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#16
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 15,743
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by judi paredes
I have a Thor ACE 2018. The toilet backed up frequently. I am conservative with paper, use plenty of water, and use RV paper. The clog is fairly close to the toilet and I have to unclog with a hose. I suspect an engineering design flaw having to do with the elbows. any input or suggestions?
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You didn't say what model ACE but I suspect you have one with the toilet on the passenger side. If so, the toilet dumps directly on the shallow end of the black tank that has a low angle ramp to the deep end. Two problems with that:
1 - Unless the tank is over 1/2 full the dump hits the dry ramp.
2 - "Stuff" doesn't roll downhill as fast as you might think and tends to tee-pee under the toilet unless dumped with lots of liquid. This creates a poo volcano which will eventually plug the toilet exit.
So if this is your case, once you understand the poor engineering design and the challenges resulting from it, you can better understand how to deal with it and prevent problems.
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Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B BU TOAD
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05-02-2020, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Cruiser
Model: Georgetown 30x3
State: Idaho
Posts: 223
THOR #17441
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After once having to unplug one from the outside went to Mexican TP approach. No issues since.
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05-02-2020, 06:54 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Utah
Posts: 47
THOR #3257
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
You didn't say what model ACE but I suspect you have one with the toilet on the passenger side. If so, the toilet dumps directly on the shallow end of the black tank that has a low angle ramp to the deep end. Two problems with that:
1 - Unless the tank is over 1/2 full the dump hits the dry ramp.
2 - "Stuff" doesn't roll downhill as fast as you might think and tends to tee-pee under the toilet unless dumped with lots of liquid. This creates a poo volcano which will eventually plug the toilet exit.
So if this is your case, once you understand the poor engineering design and the challenges resulting from it, you can better understand how to deal with it and prevent problems.
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No kidding, worst engineering design ever. I started noticing TP piling up at the flat point. Keep telling my husband he must fill the bowl with water before doing his business. I have had to take a couple gallons of water and pour it down the hole to break up the TP and get it moving. I hate the design of that toilet. Real genius work
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05-02-2020, 07:00 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Indiana
Posts: 1
THOR #12421
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Emaciator toilet.
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05-02-2020, 07:05 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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It takes nothing but common sense to prevent toilet problems. Look at your toilet at home. See how much water is in the bowl. That's how much water you need in the Rv bowl. That and some normal good brand single ply TP and you will never have a problem.
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2011 Keystone Sprinter 323BHS. Retired Master Electrician. All Motor Homes are RV's. All RV's are not Motor Homes.
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