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04-06-2019, 03:50 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 33SW
State: Idaho
Posts: 38
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Roof A/C's Dead
I recently swapped out the analog Coleman-Mach thermostats with digital ones. I made sure the wiring on the thermostats matched the old ones. Now the roof A/C's will not come on. No compressor or fan in either one. The A/C circuit breakers are both on and not tripped. I hear the relays in the thermostats click and they report 'COOL ON" steady on both but nothing out of the A/C's.
Are there reset switches someone I am not aware of?
Any help appreciated!
Marshall
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04-06-2019, 04:32 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Allegro Open Road
State: Florida
Posts: 417
THOR #8069
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No reset that im aware of. Double check your wiring, im assuming that you have the correct thermostat 1 stage heat 1 stage cool. Try touching red wire to yellow wire with power on the fan should come on, maybe a bad stat?
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04-06-2019, 05:25 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: compass 23tw
State: California
Posts: 229
THOR #7466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoPoes
I recently swapped out the analog Coleman-Mach thermostats with digital ones. I made sure the wiring on the thermostats matched the old ones. Now the roof A/C's will not come on. No compressor or fan in either one. The A/C circuit breakers are both on and not tripped. I hear the relays in the thermostats click and they report 'COOL ON" steady on both but nothing out of the A/C's.
Are there reset switches someone I am not aware of?
Any help appreciated!
Marshall
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Please keep us updated on the fix.
& the pros & cons after you get it working.
Good luck.
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Mike
Bakersfield,Ca
2017 Gemini 23TR- sold
2020 29J Outlaw- sold
2021 23tw compass
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04-06-2019, 09:02 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 33SW
State: Idaho
Posts: 38
THOR #4147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron1Z
No reset that im aware of. Double check your wiring, im assuming that you have the correct thermostat 1 stage heat 1 stage cool. Try touching red wire to yellow wire with power on the fan should come on, maybe a bad stat?
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Thanks!! I'll give the jumping red to yellow a try. If bad thermostat then it would be two of them (front AC and rear AC separate thermostats - both changed).
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04-06-2019, 09:03 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 33SW
State: Idaho
Posts: 38
THOR #4147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by safari
Please keep us updated on the fix.
& the pros & cons after you get it working.
Good luck.
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Will do!
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04-06-2019, 09:23 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 33SW
State: Idaho
Posts: 38
THOR #4147
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Jumper red and yellow together did not cause the fan to come on. I know the thermostats are good because I hear them clicking when set to cool.
Decided to look at 12V fuses. One labeled 'Appliances' (15 A). Checked it and it was blown. I replaced the fuse and all is well now.
Thanks for the tip on isolating the thermostat - that caused me to check the 12V angle.
Both thermostats now digital with a very narrow temperature swing.
Marshall
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04-06-2019, 09:52 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Congratulations!
How does it feel to be one of "The Cool Kids"?
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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04-06-2019, 11:33 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2013 ACE 30.1
State: Alberta
Posts: 1,413
THOR #2631
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Use a voltmeter and check that red (RH/RC/R terminal or whatever is used on thermostat) has +12vdc on it.....also depending on the thermo the RH and RC terminals should be jumpered together if they are separate terminals)......so if touching the RC terminal to Y terminal (which is for cooling compressor) and there is no joy......try checking that the blue (B) is grounded on the thermostat. If the thermo has its own batteries then what used to terminate on the B terminal of the old analog thermos (coach ground) has to still provide ground to the relay in the air conditioning control box......usually accessible by removing the inside ceiling escutcheon vent panel of each air conditioner if you need to get in there. Check the wiring behind the thermo first though. The fact that both air conditioners and two new thermostats are doing the same thing.....means the trouble is probably the common denominator......the person wiring missed some little thing I suspect. Maybe?
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04-06-2019, 11:37 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2013 ACE 30.1
State: Alberta
Posts: 1,413
THOR #2631
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oops missed the "part about you fixed it already".....I'll just go back to sleep then.
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04-07-2019, 11:36 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.2
State: Missouri
Posts: 1,039
THOR #4687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoPoes
Jumper red and yellow together did not cause the fan to come on. I know the thermostats are good because I hear them clicking when set to cool.
Decided to look at 12V fuses. One labeled 'Appliances' (15 A). Checked it and it was blown. I replaced the fuse and all is well now.
Thanks for the tip on isolating the thermostat - that caused me to check the 12V angle.
Both thermostats now digital with a very narrow temperature swing.
Marshall
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We replaced our analog with a digital over a year ago. No comparison. The temperature range is now within a degree or two (makes sleeping MUCH more enjoyable instead of the "sweating and freezing" saga of the analog unit)
Definitely a worthwhile upgrade!
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04-08-2019, 01:26 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: compass 23tw
State: California
Posts: 229
THOR #7466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoPoes
Jumper red and yellow together did not cause the fan to come on. I know the thermostats are good because I hear them clicking when set to cool.
Decided to look at 12V fuses. One labeled 'Appliances' (15 A). Checked it and it was blown. I replaced the fuse and all is well now.
Thanks for the tip on isolating the thermostat - that caused me to check the 12V angle.
Both thermostats now digital with a very narrow temperature swing.
Marshall
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Great,Good for you.
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Bakersfield,Ca
2017 Gemini 23TR- sold
2020 29J Outlaw- sold
2021 23tw compass
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