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10-05-2022, 09:51 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 24TF Compass / Mercedes
State: New York
Posts: 200
THOR #17969
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Warning: Rotella def, don't buy or use
Over the summer I bought some Shell Rotella DEF fluid and thought I got a good deal since it was on sale at my local Runnings store. I topped my tank while winterizing the Sprinter. I thought I'd also mark the remaining container contents with the disposal date. Long story short the date code could not be decoded so I called Shell and found out they had a third party provide the fluid to them (they don't yet manufacture it themselves) and it got marketed without them having any clue how to decode the manufacturing date! Thus, they had no idea how long it was on the shelf and suggested just disposing of it. Pressing them on reimbursement was useless. So I siphoned the tank and got some new Peak Blue DEF. Lesson learned, you get what you pay for.
Side rant: WTH is wrong with marking a simple manufacturing date on this stuff like other products, rather than using the Julian calendar to figure out when it was made?? What a PITA.
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10-05-2022, 11:40 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Tuscany 40ex
State: Ohio
Posts: 455
THOR #12726
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I carry a def refractor in the motor home or my p/u when fueling you can put a small sample on the refractor and it will tell you if the def fluid meets minimum requirements of 32.5. % urea, I got mine from Amazon and it also does coolant, def, washer fluid, battery acid and it was about 20.00 just check it because they sell them in Celsius or Fahrenheit, I have never seen def fluid go bad from age, but the vehicles I work on don’t set long enough for that.
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10-05-2022, 11:45 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,447
THOR #17765
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WTH! DEF is ammonia. Urea. Old. Hell I used whatever in my F350 dually. Probably could piss in the DEF tank and make it work. Ford would not reset unless you completely filled it. I was sorry I got rid of my ‘01 F250 with the 7.3.
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10-06-2022, 12:00 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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It was "on sale" for a reason. If diesel sells, DEF sells along with it. Don't buy DEF from a retailer that doesn't sell a train load of diesel daily, such as truck stops. Taste it...if it tastes like piss, it's good. If it tastes like water, don't use it.
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10-06-2022, 12:25 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 24TF Compass / Mercedes
State: New York
Posts: 200
THOR #17969
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good point Gritz
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10-06-2022, 12:58 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2020 Magnitude SV34
State: Florida
Posts: 4,160
THOR #12751
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I have bought DEF from Tractor Supply, Rural King, WalMart, Convenience Stores, etc. I have DEF that has sat a year in my temperature controlled garage before it got used.
I have run it my 2018 GMC Canyon Denali, my 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 and my 2020 Magnitude SV34.
I've never had an issue in any of my vehicles.
Just saying.......
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10-06-2022, 01:50 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: A.C.E. 27.2
State: Indiana
Posts: 1,884
THOR #14698
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[QUOTE=The Gritz Carlton;..."if it tastes like piss, it's good."
Now that there is funny !!
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10-06-2022, 05:19 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Mobile Suites 36RSB3
State: Florida
Posts: 276
THOR #17449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Judge
I have bought DEF from Tractor Supply, Rural King, WalMart, Convenience Stores, etc. I have DEF that has sat a year in my temperature controlled garage before it got used.
I have run it my 2018 GMC Canyon Denali, my 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 and my 2020 Magnitude SV34.
I've never had an issue in any of my vehicles.
Just saying.......
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Same here. DEF should last around 2 years can't believe any of it will sit on a self that long.
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10-06-2022, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Tuscany 42GX
State: Missouri
Posts: 1,158
THOR #9178
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DEF is carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen in a 32.5% Nitrogen blend
In a sealed container, what exactly goes bad?
They simply dilute carbamide aka urea and sell you high priced fertilizer
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10-12-2022, 04:16 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Elite 24FE
State: Washington
Posts: 125
THOR #23201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
Taste it...if it tastes like piss, it's good. If it tastes like water, don't use it.
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I’m proud to say I don’t know what piss tastes like🤔
I think I’ll skip the taste test and just keep buying from a high volume retailer 😆
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