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12-27-2022, 07:41 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1
State: Michigan
Posts: 6
THOR #28556
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Axis 24.1 toad
I have a 2023 Axis 24.1 and am exploring my options for a toad. I have been considering a new Chevy Equinox AWD that according to the owners manual is flat towable with a curb weight of about 3500 pounds. I don't believe that the weight is an issue, but would like to hear from other Axis owners on their experiences, opinions or tips.
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12-28-2022, 12:57 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,158
THOR #13362
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Ive been towing a ‘20 Chevy Spark 5 speed manual tranny since I purchased new in June-2020.
Installed Blue Ox baseplate & integrated lights DIY, and use a simple/no-frills Blue Ox tow bar
At 2300# I choose not to use a brake package.
I have a hi-lo hitch receiver so sometimes I carry a pair of bikes on a rack as well.
I get 10.5mpg whether I’m towing or not.
In other words, Ford V-10 performs the same with or without the toad.
Since there’s only two of us, the compact Spark works great for our needs.
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Fallbrook, CA
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12-28-2022, 04:52 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 24F
State: Ohio
Posts: 2,678
THOR #16721
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I have a class C with the E-350 chassis. My Jeep Wrangler toad weighs 3800# with two tubs of firewood in the back seat and a full tank of gas. We are right at the load limit with all our #stuff in the MH. Druthers, I'd have gone with a 450 chassis for breathing room. No issues with power/towing... just going by the numbers.
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12-28-2022, 05:21 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: A.C.E. 27.2
State: Indiana
Posts: 1,572
THOR #14698
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The Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) will dictate what you may safely tow. That number is the total weight of Motorhome, loaded gear, passengers and anything you tow (boats, trailers or vehicles).
Your Gross Weight Rating for your AXIS is 12,500 lbs. So, if you are loaded to the MH's max weight you can safely tow 6000 lbs. (GCWR 18,500 - GWR of 12,500) In actuality most of us are running these MH's at their max weight or slightly above. Towing 5000 lbs is a pretty safe bet. Our Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk has a curb weight of 4200lbs. Our V10 has no problems towing it. Your Godzilla V8 has a little more HP and Torque than the V10 you should have no problems with a 4–5-thousand-pound toad.
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2018 ACE 27.2
Toad 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
Roadmaster Falcon All Terrain Towbar
Roadmaster Invisibrake
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12-28-2022, 05:36 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2022 Axis 24.1
State: Kansas
Posts: 576
THOR #24565
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2022 Axis 24.1 and we tow a Bronco that is a little heavier than the vehicle you mentioned. With a good tow vehicle brake system you will not notice you are towing. That is except for the extra length and not being able to back up with your tow still hooked up.
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01-04-2023, 07:17 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2019 Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 148
THOR #17456
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Toad Experience
I have a 2019 Axis 24.1 on the E-450 chassis and tow a 2 door Jeep Wrangler-about 3,950 lb. dry. I use an Alpha 2 tow bar and Demco Stay-in-Play brake system.
Towing the Jeep is a breeze and its' presence is only evident on steep hills or in gas stations. Weight is not an issue. Having the toad adds a lot of convenience and independence to the RV experience.
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01-05-2023, 12:08 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Hurricane 27K
State: Florida
Posts: 2,748
THOR #1589
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Have you checked out Motorhome Magazine's guide to RV dingy towing? Its a download PDF by year. So if, for example, if you are considering a 2019 model, acess that year's guide. It will give the manufacturer's dry weight, process and towing restrictions.
(We tow a 2011 Miata, even though Mazda doesn't recommend it. Zoom!)
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01-05-2023, 02:14 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 24F
State: Ohio
Posts: 2,678
THOR #16721
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You likely won't have any issues "power-wise" flat towing 3,500+ pounds. What you need to be more concerned about is overloading the coach... how much weight you load up the motorhome with. Your combined weight when towing, plus the weight of the motorhome. If yours is an E-350 chassis, you'll be surprised how little weight that is. The E-450 allows for more weight breathing room.
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03-18-2023, 07:09 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Challenger 37 FH
State: Texas
Posts: 18
THOR #19736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by happy
2022 Axis 24.1 and we tow a Bronco that is a little heavier than the vehicle you mentioned. With a good tow vehicle brake system you will not notice you are towing. That is except for the extra length and not being able to back up with your tow still hooked up.
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What tow system are you using. We had a wrangler and used the Readybrake tow bar. Want to keep using it for our Bronco as it doesn’t require any expensive or complicated braking systems
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03-18-2023, 08:42 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2022 Axis 24.1
State: Kansas
Posts: 576
THOR #24565
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We use the Ready Brute with Readybrake. When we got into this Ford had yet to figure out how to keep the electronic brake boost turned on or turned off all the time on the 2.7 engine. They have finally provided a way to keep the brake boost turned off. This was a real booger for folks trying to set up their aux. brake systems since the EBB was on for the first while then would turn off.
We have used the Readybrake set up for several trips and once you get it all tuned right it is fast and very easy to hook up and go.
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03-19-2023, 03:58 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: AXIS 25.3
State: California
Posts: 133
THOR #20631
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We tow a 2020 Equinox with our 2018 Axis 25.3 on an E450 chassis. Roadmaster tow bar, Blue Ox base plate. Demco Stay-in-Play built in system (more costly but went for the convenience of just switching a switch).
Can hardly tell the car is being towed. Just remember to use tow/haul mode on the RV and it helps greatly with braking and downshifting.
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2018 Axis 25.3
Previous trailers: 2016 Wildwood X-lite 231RKXL, 1998 Thor Tahoe Lite 19UD, 1990 Starcraft Meteor tent trailer.
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03-19-2023, 05:33 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 24F
State: Ohio
Posts: 2,678
THOR #16721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wandering Woods
We tow a 2020 Equinox with our 2018 Axis 25.3 on an E450 chassis. Roadmaster tow bar, Blue Ox base plate. Demco Stay-in-Play built in system (more costly but went for the convenience of just switching a switch).
Can hardly tell the car is being towed. Just remember to use tow/haul mode on the RV and it helps greatly with braking and downshifting.
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I only use tow/haul in hilly terrain to avoid riding the brake on downhill runs... towing or not. I never use it on flat highways as the delayed upshifts makes gas mileage even worse than it already is. With the toad auxiliary brake (InvisiBrake) I sometimes forget I'm towing.
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03-19-2023, 01:08 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 29G
State: Florida
Posts: 231
THOR #28393
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We have a 2023 Ace 29g. Tow vehicle is a 2022 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk.
Blue ox baseplate with Avail tow bar. Stay n play braking system.
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