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Old 04-10-2018, 11:54 AM   #61
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Jamie, I have an appointment next Friday to see about some swirl decals.

Saddlesore, thanks for the website on kayaks by Hobie. I'll contact them to see if they have a recommended roof mount for the kayak.

Mo-Mike, the mileage dropped from approximately 8.8mpg from last year's trip to 8.3 mpg at 65ish. I did use the tow mode on a couple of the steeper downhills coming out of Asheville.

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Old 05-07-2018, 02:18 AM   #62
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One more question about the brake control lines and all the cables from the RV to the Toad. This could be important or just eccentric and a bit esoteric...but I'm putting it out to all the senior towers in the group for input.
When running the safety cables, the 7-pin connection cable, the trickle charging cable, the brake light line to the dash and the emergency disconnect cable they all seem sloppy just hanging down between the RV and the Toad just looking for something to snag on. I have zip tied a couple of them together. BUT, is there any reason NOT to cross the safety cables from the connector RV passenger side to the connector Toad driver side and then RV driver side to Toad passenger side and do it above the tow bar arms FALCON2? With the point of crossing between the tow bar arms that gives the 7-pin cable something to lay up on top of and out of harms way.
This is what happens when you have only towed three times and you have three hours of drive time to think about things that could possibly go wrong on your new adventure.

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Old 05-07-2018, 03:19 AM   #63
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A photo would help here. You gotta keep those cables and lines safe. My brake wires are encased in a split wire loom, and the wires for the brakes are in a separate one.

I always cross the safety cables, as the installer recommended, but can't come up with a reason that is necessary. My cables for lights, brakes and breakaway, along with the safety cables, all ride safely above the Protect A Tow skirt.
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:35 AM   #64
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You should ALWAYS cross the cables, in the event of the trailer separated from the rig the crossed cables form a "basket" and will caught and keep the trailer tounge in the air till you pull over. Cables side on side trailer tounge drops straight onto pavement.
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:48 AM   #65
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Yeah, that would be the reason. I feel that was more important with a ball mounted trailer, versus the tow bar for the car I tow. Will continue to cross the safety cables. Stay safe!
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:52 AM   #66
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One more question about the brake control lines and all the cables from the RV to the Toad. This could be important or just eccentric and a bit esoteric...but I'm putting it out to all the senior towers in the group for input.
When running the safety cables, the 7-pin connection cable, the trickle charging cable, the brake light line to the dash and the emergency disconnect cable they all seem sloppy just hanging down between the RV and the Toad just looking for something to snag on. I have zip tied a couple of them together. BUT, is there any reason NOT to cross the safety cables from the connector RV passenger side to the connector Toad driver side and then RV driver side to Toad passenger side and do it above the tow bar arms FALCON2? With the point of crossing between the tow bar arms that gives the 7-pin cable something to lay up on top of and out of harms way.
This is what happens when you have only towed three times and you have three hours of drive time to think about things that could possibly go wrong on your new adventure.

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I wrote a great response with helpful tips...all with one finger and.... It didn't post. Will try again when I'm home from Jack Rabbit campground. Fish weren't biting but who cares?
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Old 05-07-2018, 11:56 AM   #67
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Thanks for the replies.
I'll be setting up for a Memorial Day road trip and take some pictures then. I thought crossing the cables would catch the Falcon2 tongue should it work loose from the RV; hopefully keeping it from dropping to the asphalt and acting like a Toad Pole vault!
Up at the KOA in Marble/Murphy (Valley River) the fish were biting, but only the smaller ones (4 to 6 inches)...the larger/older ones could be seen but they were more interested in spawning (what I would have given for a spear-gun this past weekend).
Did better in the Cherokee Casino at Murphy .

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Old 05-07-2018, 01:44 PM   #68
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I thought crossing the cables would catch the Falcon2 tongue should it work loose from the RV; hopefully keeping it from dropping to the asphalt and acting like a Toad Pole vault!
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Exactly the reason for crossing the cables... catch the tongue before it hits the ground.

For the other lines - some towbars have 'pathways' for the cables.
I use coiled safety cables - and the installed coiled the 'breakaway' wire - the brake monitor light wire runs thru the breakaway coil.
The main umbilical from RV to toad runs on top of the tow bar.
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Old 05-25-2018, 03:28 AM   #69
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i tow ajeep wrangler unlimited with a 2017 thor freedom elite 92fe.
i use the smi stay and play duo.
i can adjust it to the weight of my tow +/_ cargo.
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:33 AM   #70
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I tow a 2006 Honda Element on a Blue Ox towbar with the RViBrake 2. I have been very happy with the setup.

DocMike, why the low mpg? I travel at 58 MPH and am averaging between 10 and 10.5 MPG. Without the toad, I was getting 10.5 to 11 MPG,
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DocMike, why the low mpg? I travel at 58 MPH and am averaging between 10 and 10.5 MPG. Without the toad, I was getting 10.5 to 11 MPG,
I'd be happy with his 8.3 to 8.8. My V10 never seen 10 - but also attached to a larger MH (32-33 ft).


I'll guess his '65ish' is on the high side of 65... and certainly will impact mileage compared to 58 for these 'highly aerodynamic' vehicles.
I will say I've never driven out a tank at 58 to see what I get... Not being retired, the time 'getting there' is limited - so I'll pay for the lower mileage.
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