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Old 01-19-2016, 12:32 AM   #21
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:50 AM   #22
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2106 Hurricane 32A towing a 2010 Jeep Wrangler Islander soft top...
Roadmaster All Terrain Tow Bar, Base Plates and Invisibrake
Jeep OEM Wiring Harness to connect RV lights and run Jeep taillights.

About 4000 miles towing so far.

We left the 'packing material' back with Jamie as we escaped south with Wrangler in tow.

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Like the electic as a flat tow... Nice to know ford has one you can... I knew the focus electric couldn't be... nor the chevy volt... (and no - my 'gmc' name has nothing to do with GM )
Anything special needed to tow them?
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:06 AM   #23
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2106 Hurricane 32A towing a 2010 Jeep Wrangler Islander soft top...
Roadmaster All Terrain Tow Bar, Base Plates and Invisibrake
Jeep OEM Wiring Harness to connect RV lights and run Jeep taillights.

About 4000 miles towing so far.

We left the 'packing material' back with Jamie as we escaped south with Wrangler in tow.

Jamie/Happily Retired,
Like the electic as a flat tow... Nice to know ford has one you can... I knew the focus electric couldn't be... nor the chevy volt... (and no - my 'gmc' name has nothing to do with GM )
Anything special needed to tow them?
For 2016 you can flat tow the Cmax and Fusion electrics as well as the both models in the Hybrid version. I noticed you can also flat tow the AWD Taurus if someone wants an AWD sedan to flat tow.


I might have to start looking for new tires for my Fusion or Flex.
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:46 AM   #24
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I wouldn't want a daily driver unless it was AWD.

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....if someone wants an AWD sedan to flat tow.
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:49 AM   #25
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Old 01-20-2016, 01:29 AM   #26
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You might get caught in a snow storm in Colorado on one of your adventures!

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Old 01-20-2016, 01:34 AM   #27
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Old 01-20-2016, 02:17 AM   #28
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Wranglers and Cherokees can be flat towed with automatic transmissions. Some of the other Jeeps can not be flat towed. The key is being able to put the transfer case in Neutral.

We row a Jeep Liberty automatic. Transfer case in neutral and transmission in Park. That keeps the transmission from spinning. But everyone should check the owners manual.
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Old 01-20-2016, 05:04 AM   #29
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Like the electic as a flat tow... Nice to know ford has one you can... I knew the focus electric couldn't be... nor the chevy volt... (and no - my 'gmc' name has nothing to do with GM )
Anything special needed to tow them?[/QUOTE]

The C-Max is great because it will run on electricity or gas. It's an easy tow. Put it in neutral and go. However, you do need a charge line from the motorhome, or your battery will most likely be dead on arrival!
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:49 PM   #30
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However, you do need a charge line from the motorhome, or your battery will most likely be dead on arrival!
To be specific: He is talking about the 12V battery here--not the high-voltage hybrid battery.
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Old 01-20-2016, 01:19 PM   #31
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One thing about our Jeep is that we cannot tow it on a dolly. All four must be on the ground or all four must be off the ground (trailer).
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Old 01-20-2016, 01:41 PM   #32
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One thing about our Jeep is that we cannot tow it on a dolly. All four must be on the ground or all four must be off the ground (trailer).
As I would expect on any true 4WD vehicle.. Transfer cases are designed to allow for different speeds between front/rear - but not one axle doing 60mph and the other 0...

The owners manual always wins whether something can be flat towed - but typically 'true 4WD' with transfer case that can be shifted to neutral can usually be towed '4 down' or '4 up' (trailer/flatbed) regardless of transmission type (as it disconnects the transmission from the wheels) - but not on a dolly or typical tow truck raising only 2 wheels.

Other drive conventions vary (AWD, FWD, RWD - and standard/auto transmissions...) In many cases it is an auto transmission issue with lubrication that doesn't happen with only the wheels spinning.
(2WD Jeeps fall in this boat too - and depends on trans type whether they can be flat towed).
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Old 01-24-2016, 01:20 AM   #33
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Old 01-24-2016, 03:21 AM   #34
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OK - anyone heard of being able to tow a 2012 Toyota Prius - on a tow dolly! I've heard you can't because raising the front wheels off the ground "makes the front sensors go wacky" - and that's a quote from a Toyota tech guy! Yet another dealership tech guy with 25 yrs experience said he didn't know anything about the sensors going wacky, but would be concerned that when you raise the front wheels off the ground that lowers the back of the car - thus scraping it in a driveway etc.
I have towed the car once - before the first comment, 35 miles, but no issues. Afraid to try again until I get some more answers..........anyone?
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Old 01-24-2016, 03:33 AM   #35
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Watch the video on the Acme Tow Dolly's web site and check out what kind of car they demonstrate it with (Acme "EZE-TOW" Tow Dolly - Car Tow Dolly).

We used to have a Focus Electric which the owner's manual explicitly states not to tow the car with any wheels on the ground. I did a short test tow with it (about 5 miles) to see why. Mechanically there really was no reason I couldn't tow the car around (its FWD, the rear axle is identical to a gas engine'd Focus, it fit on the dolly fine). The only issue I really could find was that the software really didn't like the fact that the rear wheels were spinning when the front weren't. When I started it after towing I got all kinds of faults with the traction control, ABS, etc. Took a few power cycles to clear them all and it would start behaving normally again...never pulled it again. (Now we have the C-Max which can be towed.)
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Old 01-24-2016, 03:51 AM   #36
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Wow - thanks for the link. I thought that was my car for a moment. Same color! I have a Roadmaster (don't recall the model) - I'll check their website to see if they offer a similar video......thanks for the info!!
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Old 01-24-2016, 05:35 AM   #37
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Got our towing package installed today. Hyundai Alantra GT. Have to admit, it's a bit nerve wracking at first.
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Old 01-24-2016, 12:32 PM   #38
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It is very difficult to make a blanket statement as to what vehicle is flat towable or not.

Thing is, most vehicles - especially those with automatic transmissions, change from year to year as to their flat tow capability; and even then, some engine/transmission combinations may or may not be flat towable for a particular model year.

For example; the current model Cherokee, it is available with 3 different automatic transmissions; 2WD, 4WD, and 4WD dual range. Of the three transmissions, only the 4WD dual range transmission can be flat towed (it has a transfer-case neutral switch). The dual range is standard on the Trailhawk, and a $1,000 option on the others (caveat; that was as of 2014 when we looked at Cherokees for a toad. Things may have changed since then).

You need to do some research before deciding to tow a vehicle. Most manufacturers have a "Recreational Towing" section in their owner's manuals that tells you whether the vehicle is flat towable behind a motorhome, what engine/transmissions may or may not be towed, restrictions (speed or distance), as well as any setup required (procedure to place the transmission in neutral, removing fuses, etc).

The point I am trying to make is a particular model year or transmission/engine combination may or may not be flat towable for any given vehicle model. It changes all the time. One of the most popular toad models; the Honda CR-V with either manual or automatic transmission was flat towable from the beginning of time... until the 2015 model year when Honda started putting CVTs in them. They are no longer flat towable.

As of now, only a very few late model vehicles are flat towable, especially those with automatic transmissions; and I suspect this list is going to be less and less as manufacturers strive to meet future CAFE fuel economy standards. They are looking to shave every ounce of excessive weight from the vehicles to meet new mileage standards, and thus are removing components (e.g. transfer case neutrals) that make them flat towable.

As well, some have found certain models, although the owner's manuals state they are not flat towable, have found they tow OK. Websites such as www.remcoindustries.com do have an index that details those vehicles.

However, you may be at some risk if the owner's manual states a vehicle is not flat towable and you use the advice from remco and damage your vehicle; especially if the vehicle is still under warranty. Said warranty might be void if you flat tow against the owner's manual instructions.
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Here is a pic of the old Sunseeker pulling 2012 Ford fiesta 5 speed standard with roadmaster system with rock guard. Ordered a white car and placed decals to match RV - looked good till purchased the new one (pictured below). Oh well, can always paint the car I guess! nah!!


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Also installed the stop lights myself - used auto wire I already had and simply purchased the front plug and diodes from eBay! Saved about $50.00 doing it myself.

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