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Old 06-03-2017, 09:48 PM   #161
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We just bought a 2012 Fiat 500C manual transmission to tow behind the Thor Citation 24SR. We are looking at installing the base plate ourself. Any comments on self-install, or advantage of Blue Ox vs Roadmaster would be appreciated.
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Old 06-03-2017, 09:51 PM   #162
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What tow bar are you using and base plate? I just bought a 2012 Fiat 500C with manual transmission and so am ready to purchase the tow kit. How dod you handle the brakes?
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:21 PM   #163
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Blue Ox and Road master are both good products. Road master is sold
by Camping World and Blue Ox by other shops.

I priced both and even with my Camping World Good Sam discount it
was Blue Ox $3100 and Road Master $5200 installed . I went with a
Blue Ox product.

Brave man planning on installing your own base plate, you usually have
to remove the front valance to gain access on most vehicles.
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:33 PM   #164
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:33 PM   #165
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I agree that installing the baseplates are a big chore and things never seem to go back the same way. I opted to pay the 150 for the install at a shop. Everything is warranted to be back as it should and if I ever have a baseplate issue that causes an accident, I will not be the one on trial.......

I know, over reacting but I tend to stay on the side that protects me from liability.
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:51 PM   #166
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We just bought a 2012 Fiat 500C manual transmission to tow behind the Thor Citation 24SR. We are looking at installing the base plate ourself. Any comments on self-install, or advantage of Blue Ox vs Roadmaster would be appreciated.
Both brands are very good products... Don't think you can go wrong with either. Some differences in looks - and price... When I did mine 3 years ago - the Roadmaster thru CW was more than $1000 LESS than I could find on Blue Ox at General RV and others (part was a significant install discount using Good Sams)...
Phil found the other way around from what he just posted...

I would price both and see the difference.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:09 PM   #167
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Brave man planning on installing your own base plate, you usually have
to remove the front valance to gain access on most vehicles.[/QUOTE]


Removing the front is no big deal it held on mostly with plastic push pins
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:05 AM   #168
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Removing the front is no big deal it held on mostly with plastic push pins
That is what I am hoping, no big deal. I plan to go slow and take my time. Who knew RVing would be such an adventure before one even left home?
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:30 AM   #169
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Suggest you check prices at etrailer.com
Look carefully at the differences in the way the tow bars attach to the baseplate. Personally, I prefer the Blue Ox, but my current towed car only has a RM baseplate available.
We stopped at the Blue Ox factory in Nebraska last summer, and they refurbished our 8 year old tow bars without a charge. We were offered free camping adjacent to the factory. Great company!
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:42 AM   #170
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That is what I am hoping, no big deal. I plan to go slow and take my time. Who knew RVing would be such an adventure before one even left home?
Check with e trailer they may have a video on installing baseplate also check out amazon for prices
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Old 06-04-2017, 06:22 AM   #171
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They're both good products. I personally like the small removable tabs featured by Blue Ox. The baseplate is virtually invisible when the tabs are not in place.

I installed the Blue Ox baseplate myself on a 2012 Jeep Liberty, with a little stabilizing help from my teenage son while I loosely inserted bolts. It was very easy using common tools.

The most annoying part was needing to purchase a plastic rivet tool on Amazon, (and waiting for it to arrive), in order to reattach the inside fender plastic to the bumper valence.
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:44 PM   #172
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:05 PM   #173
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I have installed 2 base plates so far

Road master on my 2012 Ford Fiesta and a Blue Ox on my 2013 Infiniti G37 coupe.

I spend one full day on both and the directions that come with the products are both excellent.

ONE THING!!!!! Buy many drill bites and get the most expensive you can buy! OMG! The metal in the front of cars is STRONG! Money well spent and have at least two or you will be driving mid install to the hardware store for more - always return what you do not use!

That is my only advise.


Sure you have to pull the entire front fashia off the car but like stated here prior - not that hard as it is plastic, light weight, and held on my simple screws.

GO FOR IT - Save a lot of money and know it is done RIGHT!

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Old 06-04-2017, 11:13 PM   #174
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I have installed 2 base plates so far

Road master on my 2012 Ford Fiesta and a Blue Ox on my 2013 Infiniti G37 coupe.

I spend one full day on both and the directions that come with the products are both excellent.

ONE THING!!!!! Buy many drill bites and get the most expensive you can buy! OMG! The metal in the front of cars is STRONG! Money well spent and have at least two or you will be driving mid install to the hardware store for more - always return what you do not use!

That is my only advise.


Sure you have to pull the entire front fashia off the car but like stated here prior - not that hard as it is plastic, light weight, and held on my simple screws.

GO FOR IT - Save a lot of money and know it is done RIGHT!

Darren
Darren, thank you for the sage advice. I am leaning towards the Blue OX, but it strikes me that both are good products. I have about two weeks before I hit the road, so I am running out of time. I still need to select an A-frame, most likely also the Blue OX model and lights and break-system.

Any advice on which is the easiest to install while being completely safe?
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Car in tow, what's yours?

I still don't know why people spend so much money on tow bars adapters and braking systems tow dollies are not that expensive and tow just as easy .
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Darren, thank you for the sage advice. I am leaning towards the Blue OX, but it strikes me that both are good products. I have about two weeks before I hit the road, so I am running out of time. I still need to select an A-frame, most likely also the Blue OX model and lights and break-system.

Any advice on which is the easiest to install while being completely safe?

I would suggest you look at RVI brake system works great and it can be moved to different vehicles
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I still don't know why people spend so much money on tow bars adapters and braking systems tow dollies are not that expensive and tow just as easy .
We've used 2 different tow dollies and they worked ok to get from point A to B pounding pavement but they were always in the way otherwise. We hit forest service roads and disconnect the toad. With dolly we had to wheel it around by hand and either tow it with the toad or let it bounce more excessively behind the motorhome. Invariably when left attached to the motorhome it had to be disconnected in the most inconvenient situations ... such as one time when headed up a steep single track road we discovered was blocked by a big tree and there was no way I'd make it all the way back down that trail in reverse with the dolly attached that I couldn't even see clearly! Flat tow is vastly more simple in our experience and totally worth the extra cost for our excursions.
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I still don't know why people spend so much money on tow bars adapters and braking systems tow dollies are not that expensive and tow just as easy .
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We've used 2 different tow dollies and they worked ok to get from point A to B pounding pavement but they were always in the way otherwise. We hit forest service roads and disconnect the toad. With dolly we had to wheel it around by hand and either tow it with the toad or let it bounce more excessively behind the motorhome. Invariably when left attached to the motorhome it had to be disconnected in the most inconvenient situations ... such as one time when headed up a steep single track road we discovered was blocked by a big tree and there was no way I'd make it all the way back down that trail in reverse with the dolly attached that I couldn't even see clearly! Flat tow is vastly more simple in our experience and totally worth the extra cost for our excursions.
As the saying goes: "That's why there is Ford's and Chevy's"

Having seen TyCreek's posts I'm surprised you've tried a dolly at all!

We're square in the dolly camp as we don't "off-road" our camper like TyCreek does (although his pics have been amazing--I'd love to camp out in the middle of nowhere like that!) and I've been leasing vehicles recently so I don't want to modify them to be able to bring them along.
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A lot depends on the vehicle being towed.

In my case - the cost of dolly towing would have included a new car... Neither my 4WD Wrangler nor my AWD Acadia can be dolly towed... So the car you have/want to bring along can dictate the choice...

Other vehicles cannot be flat towed of course - requiring a dolly or trailer.

The car is the real cost... Towing (either way) is relatively cheap.
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Having seen TyCreek's posts I'm surprised you've tried a dolly at all!
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Major draw was cost (especially when purchased used) and flexibility to tag along different vehicles without modification.
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