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Old 02-24-2020, 03:28 AM   #21
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Flat towing Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

As I said before we are towing a 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit.
With a Roadmaster Nighthawk non binding 8000 lb tow bar, Roadmaster vehicle base plates, roadmaster Invisibrake breaking system. Full roadmaster wiring system and roadmaster remote break monitor. Total cost was $4100.00 installed with added warranties at Gander Rv of Bartow Florida. Very happy with the Jeep installation. Can hardly tell it is set up to tow. Tow bar ports are flush with grill and blend in with the bars removed and the covers on.
Tows very well behind our new 2019 Thor Hurricane 34J whoís hitch is rated at 8000 lbs.
like I said we are very happy with this setup.
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Old 02-24-2020, 11:09 AM   #22
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As I said before we are towing a 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit.
With a Roadmaster Nighthawk non binding 8000 lb tow bar, Roadmaster vehicle base plates, roadmaster Invisibrake breaking system. Full roadmaster wiring system and roadmaster remote break monitor. Total cost was $4100.00 installed with added warranties at Gander Rv of Bartow Florida. Very happy with the Jeep installation. Can hardly tell it is set up to tow. Tow bar ports are flush with grill and blend in with the bars removed and the covers on.
Tows very well behind our new 2019 Thor Hurricane 34J who’s hitch is rated at 8000 lbs.
like I said we are very happy with this setup.
Thor Hurricane 34j GCWR (26,000) - GVWR (22,000) = 4000 lbs. Just because you have a 8K hitch doesn't mean you can tow 8K. The Jeep Grand Cherokee with the V6 weights in with a curb weight of over 4,500 pounds empty and if you have the V8 it weights in at over 5,000 lbs.

I highly recommend you take your rig across a CAT Scale for safety purposes because you may be overweight towing a WK2.
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Old 02-24-2020, 11:48 AM   #23
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Thor Hurricane 34j GCWR (26,000) - GVWR (22,000) = 4000 lbs. Just because you have a 8K hitch doesn't mean you can tow 8K. The Jeep Grand Cherokee with the V6 weights in with a curb weight of over 4,500 pounds empty and if you have the V8 it weights in at over 5,000 lbs.

I highly recommend you take your rig across a CAT Scale for safety purposes because you may be overweight towing a WK2.
I called Thor prior to purchasing the Jeep Grand Cherokee and they advised it was OK to tow behind the Hurricane 34j. Base weight of the Hurricane 34j is 18000 lbs. I carry about 500 lbs extras plus two adults and a 13 lb dog. I will run it by the Cat scales and get a true weight. Thanks.
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Old 02-24-2020, 12:10 PM   #24
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I called Thor prior to purchasing the Jeep Grand Cherokee and they advised it was OK to tow behind the Hurricane 34j. Base weight of the Hurricane 34j is 18000 lbs. I carry about 500 lbs extras plus two adults and a 13 lb dog. I will run it by the Cat scales and get a true weight. Thanks.
Wow... you travel very light...
75 gallons of gas is over 450 pounds (plus gas in Jeep)
40 gallons of water is over 300 pounds
20 gallons of propane is over 80 pounds
And havenít added any tools, spare parts, food, dishes, pots, etc... or any cargo/stuff in Jeep.
You may well be underweight still, but might be surprised how much you are carrying.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:47 PM   #25
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Wow... you travel very light...
75 gallons of gas is over 450 pounds (plus gas in Jeep)
40 gallons of water is over 300 pounds
20 gallons of propane is over 80 pounds
And havenít added any tools, spare parts, food, dishes, pots, etc... or any cargo/stuff in Jeep.
You may well be underweight still, but might be surprised how much you are carrying.
The 500 lbs is the extras in cargo bays on top of the water gas and propane. If Iím over it is only a couple of hundred lbs. Iíll weight it soon.
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Old 02-24-2020, 02:58 PM   #26
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The 500 lbs is the extras in cargo bays on top of the water gas and propane. If Iím over it is only a couple of hundred lbs. Iíll weight it soon.


Donít forget your own weight and any passengers you travel with! First time I weighed my rig I was astonished that I had over 2000 lbs of CCC. I was only 17 lbs over weight but still surprised. I made sure my next unit had at least another thousand pounds of available capacity.
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:53 PM   #27
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Just as a reminder the original poster has a Thor Synergy which if I believe is on a Mercedes Sprinter chassis.Which, correct me if I’m wrong, but I think he is limited to a toad in the ballpark of 3500 lbs.
All of us with 4000lb+ toads though the information we are providing is inciteful it isn't compatible with the OP's coach.
Anybody out there with a toad that this gentlemen can pull?
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Old 02-25-2020, 03:32 AM   #28
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Thor Synergy is like Citation. Hitch weight limit is 5000 lbs. A 2014 or earlier Honda CR-V is about 4,250. We have been flat-towing ours for 3 years.
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Old 02-25-2020, 04:45 AM   #29
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Thor Synergy is like Citation. Hitch weight limit is 5000 lbs. A 2014 or earlier Honda CR-V is about 4,250. We have been flat-towing ours for 3 years.
Hitch weight is not the limiting factor in what can be towed. It is the gross combined weight of loaded motor home and the toad, (the gcwr on the sticker located near the driver or on the driver door on your coach.)
My ACE has gross weight rating of 16000 lbs and a gross combined weight rating of 23000. My hitch is rated to tow 8000 lbs. Does that mean I can tow 8000lbs? Short answer is maybe . If my coach is fully loaded and weighs in at 16000 lbs and I tow an 8000 lb vehicle I am over the gcwr by 1000 lbs. I would have get the weight of my coach down to 15000 to haul that heavy a toad. Meaning less water, food, grill , charcoal, adult beverages maybe even the DW. Hitch weight rating only tells you what the HITCH can safely haul. The weight of your loaded coach actually determines how much weight you can haul.

Edit: 2020 Synergy is listed as GVWR at 11030 lbs.
GCWR is listed at 15250 lbs
If everything is right at the numbers on loading the coach a 4200 lb toad leaves very little margin
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Old 02-26-2020, 11:25 PM   #30
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I tow a 2007 Mini Cooper with a 6 speed manual trans. I use a Roadmaster Falcon towbar. Tows just fine at 2600 lbs.
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Any help or advice would be appreciated, we own a 2018 Thor synergy and was considering getting a Mini Cooper or small car to use as a toad with four wheels down, I know only the manual transmission styles can be flat towed.
My question is any body towing a small car like the Mini Cooper or similar car with four wheels down and what kind of hook do you have.

We have been renting cars when we go, but thatís getting to be a hassle at some places.

Thanks in advance for any info
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Old 03-25-2020, 08:17 AM   #31
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Shout-out to Roadmaster! We just picked up our 2020 Honda Civic Sedan Sport MT (6 speed manual) after a custom baseplate installation (first for this vehicle) at Roadmaster HQ. We were looking for a (fairly) lightweight toad to pull behind our 2019 Thor Freedom Traveler A30 and came across this Civic, which isn't (currently) listed in the Toad guides I reviewed. The Civic's Owner's Guide specifies that the manual transmission version of this vehicle is indeed towable behind an RV, but our local CW and a small hitch shop weren't sure there was a baseplate that would fit. Fortunately, Roadmaster is just a two hour drive from our home so after communicating with them they were happy to create and install a baseplate for us...for free! This means they can now outfit any such Civic with an identical baseplate or one can be ordered by your installer. They also installed (at our cost, of course) the Invisibrake 8700 with remote monitor (module under the driver's seat), hooked us up with a Falcon All Terrain tow bar, and sent us on our way. Plug-N-Play! The customer service at Roadmaster was second to none. They answered the phone and responded to emails right away and were just very friendly and helpful. So if you're looking for a 4 wheel down toad and a very nice Roadmaster setup I recommend the 2020 Honda Civic Sedan Sport MT and Roadmaster without reservation.
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Old 03-25-2020, 12:23 PM   #32
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The 500 lbs is the extras in cargo bays on top of the water gas and propane. If Iím over it is only a couple of hundred lbs. Iíll weight it soon.
Here are the weights I calculated.
Curb weight 16908 lbs
GVWR - 22000 lbs
GCWR - 26000 lbs
Jeep - 5192 lbs
Carrying capacity
26000 - 16908 = 9092 - 5192 = 3900 lbs
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Old 03-25-2020, 03:47 PM   #33
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Just as a reminder the original poster has a Thor Synergy which if I believe is on a Mercedes Sprinter chassis.Which, correct me if Iím wrong, but I think he is limited to a toad in the ballpark of 3500 lbs.
All of us with 4000lb+ toads though the information we are providing is inciteful it isn't compatible with the OP's coach.
Anybody out there with a toad that this gentlemen can pull?
We pull a Scion xB (1st generation '06, manual) 2400 lbs.
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Old 03-25-2020, 04:01 PM   #34
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Just as a reminder the original poster has a Thor Synergy which if I believe is on a Mercedes Sprinter chassis.Which, correct me if Iím wrong, but I think he is limited to a toad in the ballpark of 3500 lbs.
All of us with 4000lb+ toads though the information we are providing is inciteful it isn't compatible with the OP's coach.
Anybody out there with a toad that this gentlemen can pull?
2700 lb Sonic with automatic transmission.

But since the OP hasn't been on this site in almost a month is this info any good to him?
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