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04-28-2022, 02:06 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Freedom Elite 28H
State: Florida
Posts: 203
THOR #1929
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Hi Ador,
The manual says to put trans in neutral turn off engine. Then proceed to move transfer case neutral to 2WD. sometime the gears don't match up so I start the jeep again put trans in drive back to neutral turn off engine. Then try transfer case. Sometimes that is enough to line up the gears and it comes out of neutral pretty easy. . The most I had do this process is twice. So far so good.
Most people grab the shifter and pull back. I grab the handle with my palm facing the passenger seat. That gives outside pressure and slides to neutral very easy.
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04-28-2022, 06:06 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 33.1
State: Nevada
Posts: 318
THOR #21278
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Thanks for your response RichS.
When shifting the transfer case " to NEUTRAL" I tried to follow the manual... but NEVER was able to shift t/c to Neutral.
1. Start Engine
2. Shift Gear to NEUTRAL
3. Turn OFF engine
4. Shift transfer case to NEUTRAL
I have never been able to shift the transfer case to NEUTRAL with the engine OFF. I was able to do that with the ENGINE running (though I experienced some grinding twice), then it shifted to NEUTRAL. Same issue with trying to shift transfer case from NEUTRAL to 2L. I am afraid I will break something if I put too much force with the Transfer Case shifter.
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Originally Posted by RichS
Hi Ador,
The manual says to put trans in neutral turn off engine. Then proceed to move transfer case neutral to 2WD. sometime the gears don't match up so I start the jeep again put trans in drive back to neutral turn off engine. Then try transfer case. Sometimes that is enough to line up the gears and it comes out of neutral pretty easy. . The most I had do this process is twice. So far so good.
Most people grab the shifter and pull back. I grab the handle with my palm facing the passenger seat. That gives outside pressure and slides to neutral very easy.
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2012 Milan Eclipse
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04-28-2022, 06:42 PM
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#43
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: SV34
State: Arizona
Posts: 284
THOR #24580
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twovillagers
After 2 1/2 years of driving my Vegas without towing, I finally caved and bought a new 2 door Wrangler Sport. I was tired of trying to find rental cars, using UBER, etc. I know it doesn't make financial sense, but it makes RV travel more convenient. I bought the new Wrangler as used ones are not much cheaper and I did not want to buy someone else's abused Jeep. I decided to buy the 2 door to conserve garage space and I rarely will need to take more than two of us.
I had a local, family-owned RV shop do my setup for about $4470 plus tax.
--Blue Ox Alpha 2 tow bar
--Blue Ox base plate
--Demco Stay in Play brake system
--Light wiring and battery charge line
They did a first class job-much better than I could have done and worth the cost!
Looking forward to more flexibility and convenience.
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Congrats on the new Jeep! I have a 2 dr as well and have the same tow set-up you went with, couldn’t be happier with the set up. I leave my back seat out for storage purposes and its a great area for our Lab - Jeeps2 You will get the hook and unhook process down to minutes with time and repetition. ENJOY!!!!
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04-28-2022, 09:07 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Freedom Elite 28H
State: Florida
Posts: 203
THOR #1929
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Ador
You are correct. With the engine off grab the transfer case shift with your palm facing passenger seat. Your hand will be upside down When you pull it back add pressure towards the passenger seat to get in neutral. Getting out of neutral use the procedure in my last post.
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06-25-2022, 09:59 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport
State: New York
Posts: 5
THOR #25864
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Brake System
I'm purchasing a Jeep Wrangler 2022 2dr Sport and plan to tow behind my 29M Windsport. Anyone tow the 2DR Sport without brake assistance ?
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06-25-2022, 10:40 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,781
THOR #1469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfparsio
I'm purchasing a Jeep Wrangler 2022 2dr Sport and plan to tow behind my 29M Windsport. Anyone tow the 2DR Sport without brake assistance ?
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New York requires brakes over 1000lbs.
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06-25-2022, 11:05 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,387
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfparsio
I'm purchasing a Jeep Wrangler 2022 2dr Sport and plan to tow behind my 29M Windsport. Anyone tow the 2DR Sport without brake assistance ?
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No, don't cheap out with your safety.
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2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
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06-26-2022, 12:28 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Please add a braking system. RVs don’t stop all that well to begin with and adding a couple of tons to the load won’t help. If it seems like too much of a hassle you might consider the Stay in Play system. It is semi permanently installed but once in place it’s ready to go with the flip of a switch. I self installed in a few hours.
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06-26-2022, 01:00 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 36.1
State: Tennessee
Posts: 440
THOR #11607
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Rvi Brake 3 is simple and easy to use.
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2014 Palazzo 36.1, Cummins ISB 6.7 300hp, Allison 2500
TOAD 2008 Jeep Rubicon 4x4, Blue Ox Avail tow bar, RVibrake 3
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06-26-2022, 09:30 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2019 Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 163
THOR #17456
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Same advice
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Originally Posted by Pete'sMH
Please add a braking system. RVs don’t stop all that well to begin with and adding a couple of tons to the load won’t help. If it seems like too much of a hassle you might consider the Stay in Play system. It is semi permanently installed but once in place it’s ready to go with the flip of a switch. I self installed in a few hours.
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I would offer the same advice on the Demco Stay in Play system. It's more cost and labor upfront, but is nearly out of sight and saves the effort of moving a braking system every time you connect and disconnect. I had the whole package installed as I just felt I could not do as good a job as the shop that did the work.
I also strongly second the advice on having a braking system. It is required in most, if not all, States and the non-compliance is a big potential insurance/liability issue if there is an accident. I believe there would be a lot more stress on your RV's brakes and your tow bar system. The Jeep adds about 2 tons of mass that has to be slowed and/or stopped-sometimes quickly!
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06-27-2022, 12:54 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 27K
State: Nevada
Posts: 388
THOR #970
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Most states have a law requiring brake assistance on anything towed over 1500 -3000 pounds depending on state.
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Originally Posted by jfparsio
I'm purchasing a Jeep Wrangler 2022 2dr Sport and plan to tow behind my 29M Windsport. Anyone tow the 2DR Sport without brake assistance ?
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06-27-2022, 11:45 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Pennsylvania
Posts: 2
THOR #26911
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did you do the install yourself or had it installed? At what cost? We just received our 32FT 2023 Magnitude and want to flat tow our 2022 Wrangler 4-door diesel.
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10-20-2022, 07:29 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 30.3
State: Iowa
Posts: 1,231
THOR #28145
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I just replaced my Lifted 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. The Gladiator is basically a Wrangler with four doors and a huge trunk, I got one with a Tonneau cover. My Wife is 5'2" and she always had issues getting into the ZJ. The ZT came with everything I had to add, lift included, to my ZJ and added a dropdown step that makes it easy for my wife to get in.
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2018 Thor ACE 30.3
Towing 2020 Jeep Gladiator
Former 1996 28' Tiffin Allegro owner
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10-21-2022, 02:19 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 30.3
State: Iowa
Posts: 1,231
THOR #28145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfparsio
I'm purchasing a Jeep Wrangler 2022 2dr Sport and plan to tow behind my 29M Windsport. Anyone tow the 2DR Sport without brake assistance ?
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Most states require brakes on trailers over a certain amount of weight. Your Jeep is most certainly above that weight limit.
I have experience with two breaking systems.
The first was the Roadmaster Break master system. This system was designed first as a system for use with motorhomes that have air brakes. Air from the towing vehicle was used to operate an air cylinder hooked to the towed vehicle brake pedal. For motorhomes with hydraulic breaks a small air pump and pressure tank was added to provide the air for this. The flaw with this system is that the air pump kept blowing off the connection to the air tank rendering the system inoperative.
The second the Roadmaster Invisibrake which I just had installed on my Jeep Gladiator. This system is a semi-permanent install on the towed vehicle. It can be removed and installed on new vehicle if you trade in the old one. It is activated when the motorhome brake lights come on. It works by providing vacuum to the towed vehicles brake vacuum booster. When the unit is activated, the unit depresses the brake through a cable and pulley arrangement. The beauty of this system is that if the towed vehicle somehow breaks away the Invisibrake will stop the towed vehicle.
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2018 Thor ACE 30.3
Towing 2020 Jeep Gladiator
Former 1996 28' Tiffin Allegro owner
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11-20-2022, 02:23 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 22E
State: Michigan
Posts: 24
THOR #28483
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Bumper-mount tow bar?
We aren't exactly newbies, since we've owned a Class C and towed a JK Wrangler in the past, using an old Roadmaster Stowmaster bar that stores folded up on the front bumper when disconnected from the MH.
Fast forward 2 decades: now we have a '23 Chateau 22E and a 2020 Wrangler Sahara JLU. Do we dare use a bumper-stowed tow bar, considering all the sensors that are on the front of ANY vehicle nowadays? (I'm hoping to get something infinitely LIGHTER in weight than the Stowmaster - we aren't exactly Spring Chickens anymore)
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11-20-2022, 11:19 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 30.3
State: Iowa
Posts: 1,231
THOR #28145
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Motorhome mounted
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Originally Posted by NurseNellie
We aren't exactly newbies, since we've owned a Class C and towed a JK Wrangler in the past, using an old Roadmaster Stowmaster bar that stores folded up on the front bumper when disconnected from the MH.
Fast forward 2 decades: now we have a '23 Chateau 22E and a 2020 Wrangler Sahara JLU. Do we dare use a bumper-stowed tow bar, considering all the sensors that are on the front of ANY vehicle nowadays? (I'm hoping to get something infinitely LIGHTER in weight than the Stowmaster - we aren't exactly Spring Chickens anymore)
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Get a motorhome mounted towbar. I tow a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon I ended up with the Roadmaster Nighthawk towbar, but you could go with the Sterling or the Falcon2. The biggest advantge of a motorhome mounted towbar is that the brackets on the toad can be removed and stored when not towing. The brackets for the Gladiator weight only a few lb. each and very simple to remove and install.
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2018 Thor ACE 30.3
Towing 2020 Jeep Gladiator
Former 1996 28' Tiffin Allegro owner
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11-21-2022, 01:40 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 22E
State: Michigan
Posts: 24
THOR #28483
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan-sr@perra-us.net
Get a motorhome mounted towbar. I tow a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon I ended up with the Roadmaster Nighthawk towbar, but you could go with the Sterling or the Falcon2. The biggest advantge of a motorhome mounted towbar is that the brackets on the toad can be removed and stored when not towing. The brackets for the Gladiator weight only a few lb. each and very simple to remove and install.
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Thanks, Dan - since my post, we've found that there are several used Sterling tow bars for sale within an hours' drive of us and we're leaning towards that lighter weight. Granted, the motorhome doesn't care, but we still have to lift it into the hitch receiver ;-)
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11-21-2022, 01:48 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,781
THOR #1469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NurseNellie
Thanks, Dan - since my post, we've found that there are several used Sterling tow bars for sale within an hours' drive of us and we're leaning towards that lighter weight. Granted, the motorhome doesn't care, but we still have to lift it into the hitch receiver ;-)
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I’ve been towing a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk with a Sterling towbar for about 4 years with no issue. Towbar remains in the hitch with receiver locks so nothing to lift. I couldn’t justify the extra cost for the no value added “looks pretty” lights on the Nighthawk. We rarely travel after dark.
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11-21-2022, 04:25 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Aria 3901
State: Idaho
Posts: 698
THOR #9660
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I, too, use a Sterling. For several years with out Durango, now with our Wrangler JKUR. Have no reason to think about anything else.
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11-21-2022, 12:36 PM
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#60
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar 34.4
State: Iowa
Posts: 796
THOR #4488
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I use the Demco Dominator to tow my 2015 Wrangler 2 Door. My reason for that purchase is it only weighs 42 pounds. I believe it's the lightest on the market. Each arm moves independently and stays where you put it making an easy hook up. Release lever also makes disconnecting a breeze even if you're stopped at an angle putting pressure on the arms. It stays mounted to the RV.
I know I sound like a salesman but after fighting with a previous tow bar, I love this one.
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