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[Bob Denman]

Those "Zukes" run really nice!
Years ago: I had a Honda TransAlp, and loved it!

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[Soldier Girl]

Originally Posted by Oregonjaf

Sure! This is my bike and hitch mount.



I think a scooter would be ideal if you're not into bikes. They are light and cheap. I bought my hitch mount at Harbor Freight for $100. It reviews great and have been using it for the last few weeks without any problem.

Good looking set up!

[Pete'sMH]

Originally Posted by Soldier Girl

Good looking set up!

Yes it is! My wife and I sometimes use a pair of mopeds. They fit comfortably on a cargo carrier and DW and I can easily lift them up and down at only 110lbs. Downside is that they only go about 25 mph!

[Bob Denman]

25 mph is a bit over TWICE what I can get out of the Cart...

[Oregonjaf]

It's a good bike! It's not the best road bike, nor is it sure as heck not the best dirt bike, but, it is the best dual sport bike. It's the Swiss Army knife of motorcycles!

[Bob Denman]

They cover all of the possible uses... more than "adequately"!
My TransAlp was a good road bike, and excellent "Bad" road-bike, and a kind of poor ""Off"-road bike.

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[Soldier Girl]

Originally Posted by Bob Denman

They cover all of the possible uses... more than "adequately"! [emoji144]
My TransAlp was a good road bike, and excellent "Bad" road-bike, and a kind of poor ""Off"-road bike.

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My favorite bike was a 1981 Kawasaki 750cc Std. I loved that it was half the weight of a honda in that class & made it possible to spend my leave touring anywhere I wanted w/vetter on front & a rack for my ruck on the back. A drunken corvette racin another corvette hit me from behind & kept racin, w/me pinned to the hood for a good 2 klicks down a rainy Tx hwy, before the bike & I tumbled off. When the judge asked him why he didn't stop racin that night, he said he thought I was a telephone pole, lol!!! I miss that bike...

[Bob Denman]

Kawasakis... really fun bikes, but they weren't built quite as well as the Hondas of the same era...
When you took apart a Honda: the ground wire was always Green...
With a Kawasaki: it could be almost any color!
The plastic bodywork was also not as thick...

But they DID build some super-enthusiast hardware!
The H1 & H2 bikes were positively scary; when they were up on their pipes!
The Z1 was a worthy replacement to them, and the Z1-TC was even scarier than the triples were!

I miss those days...

[Chance]

Last Saturday I was in Maryland, and on way to airport saw a pickup truck with a mid-size motorcycle on a hitch carrier lose it at an intersection. As he made a left turn in front of us to go on same road, the bike fell off the carrier, but remained attached by the wheels. He dragged it at least 50 yards on pavement before being able to get to shoulder.

The carrier itself appeared intact, so I’m guessing he didn’t tie the bike down adequately to prevent it from falling over. To me that seems like the weak link in hauling motorcycles.

I do like idea of a small and light motorcycle or a large scooter, but would prefer it in a compact garage.

[Bob Denman]

But you still have to tie them down correctly in the garage...

If not: they'll just be like the "Frog in a blender"!

[Oregonjaf]

Originally Posted by Chance

Last Saturday I was in Maryland, and on way to airport saw a pickup truck with a mid-size motorcycle on a hitch carrier lose it at an intersection. As he made a left turn in front of us to go on same road, the bike fell off the carrier, but remained attached by the wheels. He dragged it at least 50 yards on pavement before being able to get to shoulder.

The carrier itself appeared intact, so I’m guessing he didn’t tie the bike down adequately to prevent it from falling over. To me that seems like the weak link in hauling motorcycles.

I do like idea of a small and light motorcycle or a large scooter, but would prefer it in a compact garage.

People make the mistake of securing the motorcycle to the carrier alone. You need to secure it to the hitch vehicle as well. This would have alleviated his problem of the bike falling over.

[Bob Denman]

Yup! redundant straps offer a measure of insurance...

[Chance]

I understand you have to tie down motorcycles (or bicycles) down in a garage, but if it does tip over on its side the damage won’t be nearly as bad. Plus it keeps toys out of sight, weather, and road grime.

Who knows, now that Thor manufactures many motorhome models with compact garages, maybe we’ll see one offered here.

[Bob Denman]

If they perceive a sufficient need...

[blw2]

Originally Posted by Pete'sMH

Yes it is! My wife and I sometimes use a pair of mopeds. They fit comfortably on a cargo carrier and DW and I can easily lift them up and down at only 110lbs. Downside is that they only go about 25 mph!Attachment 16626

I was thinking a few months back about mopeds like these.... I haven't seen anything like that in ...maybe 30 years or more? Seems like you'd see mopeds on the road all the time back then. Then a bit later They were especially popular among those folks that had been hit by the then new push against drinking and driving and lost their licenses.
Anyway, I saw a guy on the road with a gas engine on a bicycle...looked a bit like something out of the early 1900's just a simple bike frame with pedals and a small little one banger engine... maybe homemade, I didn't get a good look....and it set me to remembering the mopeds like yours.

[gnach]

Originally Posted by blw2

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Anyway, I saw a guy on the road with a gas engine on a bicycle...looked a bit like something out of the early 1900's just a simple bike frame with pedals and a small little one banger engine... maybe homemade, I didn't get a good look....

We were in an rv park that posted a ban on gas powered bicycles, must have been a problem.

[Bob Denman]

I've also seen a resistance to gas-powered toys...
carts
buggies
bikes

But they still seem to be okay with battery-powered stuff.

[Pete'sMH]

Originally Posted by blw2

I was thinking a few months back about mopeds like these.... I haven't seen anything like that in ...maybe 30 years or more? Seems like you'd see mopeds on the road all the time back then. Then a bit later They were especially popular among those folks that had been hit by the then new push against drinking and driving and lost their licenses.

Anyway, I saw a guy on the road with a gas engine on a bicycle...looked a bit like something out of the early 1900's just a simple bike frame with pedals and a small little one banger engine... maybe homemade, I didn't get a good look....and it set me to remembering the mopeds like yours.

Yes! We had mopeds about 25 years ago and remembering how much fun they were is why we got these last year. Finding old ones is possible but they weren’t all that well made even new and after sitting around in the back of a shed for a couple of decades good ones are hard to come by. We found that Tomos recently began importing them again so we bought these new. Not cheap at $1700, but less than the electric bikes I was looking at and more capable, versatile, and fun. I even ride them around town at home for fun and for certain kinds of errands. They work for us.

[Chance]

Originally Posted by Bob Denman

If they perceive a sufficient need...

Read Thor CEO comments and it’s hard to think they don’t know the need is there. The question is whether Thor marketing sees the gap between Class Bs like their Sequence conceptual camper van introduced at RVX, and the Axis/Vegas which is a lot larger than a van. Hymer Class As in the ~ 23-ft range (7-meter) would split the difference nicely. At that size, toads wouldn’t be as necessary because at less than 90-inches wide and 10-ft tall they should be able to go most places that large vans can go.

https://www.curbed.com/2019/4/11/183...coach-sequence

[Bob Denman]

It's not about what they hope the need is: it's about what folks will actually buy...
Marketing attempts to create or amplify desires.