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Exilenla 02-05-2019 01:25 PM

Bottom’ing Out Problem
 
I have a 2019 Miramar 35’ and can not get it up my driveway, because I have a bit of a hill🥺

Any suggestions if casters can be installed to help with this? I was on the phone yesterday with Thor - but they made no suggestions to solve this .... other than ‘can you maybe reconfigure your driveway’😆

I have googled “casters for RV’s” etc and there appears to be some mixed thoughts.... like maybe casters could cause the frame to tweak etc.

What do the pros say here?

Thanks in advance

Long & Winding road 02-05-2019 01:36 PM

Its it at the road (Street) where your driveway meets? I have seen some premade (and homemade) ramps (some out of thick rubber or plastic) you can leave at the curb to help with that transition .... and always try and attack at an angle (never straight on).

But with the long wheel base RV's that may not help much.

I like the idea of HD casters on the lowest part of the rearend. The frames are very thick - I cannot imagine having a caster that occasionally lifts the rearend some would harm it in any way. Of coarse you always want to go very slow when you know its going to hit.

TurnerFam 02-05-2019 02:08 PM

I've always felt that rollers simply LOWER your rear frame, making clearance even MORE of any issue - but some feel as if the wheels help to 'allow' the frame to 'roll over' the culprit.... but having the hitch or rear frame rail 'scrape' is not going to harm anything, even if it sounds like it.

Exilenla 02-05-2019 02:09 PM

Thanks for your input buddy.

Unfortunately it’s the bottom end as it connects to the street and we don’t have the street width to approach and proceed up at any angle��

I think I’ll try the casters and see. Hopefully we’ll hear from a fellow owner who’s encountered the same.

If only it had air bags

JamieGeek 02-05-2019 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Exilenla (Post 166005)
Thanks for your input buddy.

Unfortunately it’s the bottom end as it connects to the street and we don’t have the street width to approach and proceed up at any angle��

I think I’ll try the casters and see. Hopefully we’ll hear from a fellow owner who’s encountered the same.

If only it had air bags

You can add air bags...

Bob Denman 02-05-2019 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JamieGeek (Post 166023)
You can add air bags...

More expensive; but definitely will solve the problem! :thumb:

The Gritz Carlton 02-05-2019 03:35 PM

^^^Agree...anything that "intentionally" drags may transfer damage upward. That's a lot of weight and it has to go somewhere and the concrete/asphalt is much stronger than the construction of the coach. Is there working room enough to set out some long ramps that would even out the dip a little? Post a picture...we're like kindergarten kids...we love pictures!!!

99dart 02-05-2019 03:44 PM

I got a pair of these low profile rollers for our last MH. It drug so bad that the square ring that re-enforces the hitch had worn very badly. I had a welder/fabricator friend weld a new ring on when we started towing our car. I transferred them over to the new ws31, but it very seldom drags.
https://www.etrailer.com/Skid-Wheels...48-979018.html

Long & Winding road 02-05-2019 05:24 PM

99dart, I like those rollers. Never seen one quiet like that. I would try these if I had any issues.

I wonder if they make some sort of sliders or skids out of a hard plastic that will allow the low parts to contact but minimize noise and scraping to the frame and concrete? Plus it would minimize drag or resistantance to allow it to "slide" instead of scraping.

That way its only about 1/4 inch think of extra material instead of one inch (or more) for a caster.

Exilenla 02-05-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton (Post 166027)
^^^Agree...anything that "intentionally" drags may transfer damage upward. That's a lot of weight and it has to go somewhere and the concrete/asphalt is much stronger than the construction of the coach. Is there working room enough to set out some long ramps that would even out the dip a little? Post a picture...we're like kindergarten kids...we love pictures!!!

I'll snap one tonight :thumb:

Exilenla 02-05-2019 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 99dart (Post 166030)
I got a pair of these low profile rollers for our last MH. It drug so bad that the square ring that re-enforces the hitch had worn very badly. I had a welder/fabricator friend weld a new ring on when we started towing our car. I transferred them over to the new ws31, but it very seldom drags.
https://www.etrailer.com/Skid-Wheels...48-979018.html

I'm thinking of giving these a try....

https://www.campingworld.com/skid-wh...iABEgLf3fD_BwE

I hope the Fiberglass at the very rear of the coach isn't lower than what the casters will be when attached to the hitch.

Long & Winding road 02-05-2019 07:41 PM

I like that design. Easy on and off.

mountainsam 02-05-2019 09:51 PM

A few years ago we were in Branson MO and for you that have been there during tourist season know what hell the traffic is. Well this day a tour bus was pulling out of one of the theaters on the main drag. He had casters on the rear to help with entrances and exits. Trouble was, he pulled out onto the street and the rollers contacted, the bus proceeded about 2 feet when the drive tires became airborne and there he sat. And there everyone on the street sat.

There are ramps to help with this. In fact you can make them with good quality 2X8s and a support block in the center.

TyCreek 02-05-2019 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Exilenla (Post 166051)
I'm thinking of giving these a try....

https://www.campingworld.com/skid-wh...iABEgLf3fD_BwE

I hope the Fiberglass at the very rear of the coach isn't lower than what the casters will be when attached to the hitch.

Those CW rollers look like a cheap gimmick to me ... Highly doubt those can handle RV type weight touching down, especially if swiveled wrong! I would guess those to work maybe once before they won't swivel at a minimum.

The Ultra-Fab, previously linked, would be my choice of those 2 by far!

yukongrant 02-05-2019 11:37 PM

I've watched very long, and low RVs being loaded on ferries. Tides can make those docks 15 - 20 feet different - so sometimes there are very steep conditions. The crew that load the rigs watch very carefully. As soon as they're about to bottom out, they place 2X8s under the tires - raise it up a bit - and keep doing that until things level out. (Usually no more than 3 boards.)
If it's good enough for the pros, I would think it would work for you. I agree with Mountainsam. You could build something very simple. It would mean you would have to store them until you need them. But I think it would work.

Exilenla 02-06-2019 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by yukongrant (Post 166096)
I've watched very long, and low RVs being loaded on ferries. Tides can make those docks 15 - 20 feet different - so sometimes there are very steep conditions. The crew that load the rigs watch very carefully. As soon as they're about to bottom out, they place 2X8s under the tires - raise it up a bit - and keep doing that until things level out. (Usually no more than 3 boards.)
If it's good enough for the pros, I would think it would work for you. I agree with Mountainsam. You could build something very simple. It would mean you would have to store them until you need them. But I think it would work.

Yeah the "ramps" is sounding like the best longterm solution. Just means i need to get the coach out of storage and mess about with building them. I just want to load up and go.... can't be hassled with building stuff on the weekend :D

Exilenla 02-06-2019 12:34 AM

p.s I'm diggin' the input and help! thanks all!:thumb:

blw2 02-06-2019 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainsam (Post 166075)
A few years ago we were in Branson MO and for you that have been there during tourist season know what hell the traffic is. Well this day a tour bus was pulling out of one of the theaters on the main drag. He had casters on the rear to help with entrances and exits. Trouble was, he pulled out onto the street and the rollers contacted, the bus proceeded about 2 feet when the drive tires became airborne and there he sat. And there everyone on the street sat.

There are ramps to help with this. In fact you can make them with good quality 2X8s and a support block in the center.

I've always imagined something like that as a possibility, but never heard or read of it really happening. Funny.

I've considered putting some on....especially after the first time I dragged...but I've only ran into that issue a small number of times
and
my rig is on the E-450 chassis with a very long extension frame sticking out back there. I'm very doubtful that this frame would do well supporting the whole weight of the RV...or perhaps even a majority....so I'm not too keen on adding something that will cause me to contact the ground even a few inches sooner, because that's a few more inches of lift that will be trying to bend that frame.

The Gritz Carlton 02-06-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Exilenla (Post 166108)
Yeah the "ramps" is sounding like the best longterm solution. Just means i need to get the coach out of storage and mess about with building them. I just want to load up and go.... can't be hassled with building stuff on the weekend :D


Park it on the street and leave the motor running.:rofl:

Long & Winding road 02-06-2019 10:06 PM

Perhaps in a year or two you might be in the market for new tires? Well try and get some that are an inch or two TALLER than the current ones? That might be just enough to help?

Do you pictures of what your dealing with?


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