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rbmartiniv 10-31-2015 01:45 AM

Rear Ladder Repair
 
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The bottom rungs of the rear ladders on the 2016 Thor Challenger 37KT are too close to the ground. The first time I pulled into a driveway the ladder touched the pavement and the bottom rung was bent outward. I got a hacksaw and cut it off at the creases made by it bending. I took two 3/4" pvc 90 degree elbows (slip on), spray painted them, and connected the bottom of the ladder to the two brackets. The paint isn't an exact match but its close enough. It's not a tight fit either, so a few layers of electrical tape around the aluminum tubing is needed to make it tight enough to stay on. I would glue it but don't know what to use to bond pvc to painted aluminum. Here are some pics. I don't know how to put them in proper order, but you can figure it out.

Metalman 10-31-2015 02:08 AM

I cannot imagine the latter touching the pavement without the bottom of the end cap dragging on the ground first. You have done a very nice job of repairing the damage with PVC pipe and fittings. You might find that "Goop" will provide enough of a grip on both the aluminum and PVC to make a suitable connection. Or perhaps you could drill through the fitting and aluminum and hold them together with stainless steel machine screws and nuts.

Nursx2 10-31-2015 04:38 AM

Nice fix job!!!! My ladder has been used twice by me and once by my 15 yr old daughter and the two bottom supports are bent - I am 180 lbs and she is 110! No more going up this fragile thing - we use the TV antenna tower on the house and walk to the RV on the house roof from now on.

Metalman 10-31-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nursx2 (Post 20756)
Nice fix job!!!! My ladder has been used twice by me and once by my 15 yr old daughter and the two bottom supports are bent - I am 180 lbs and she is 110! No more going up this fragile thing - we use the TV antenna tower on the house and walk to the RV on the house roof from now on.

I weigh 245 and it didn't take long to realize that the ladder wasn't up to the task of supporting my weight. Now I use a 10 foot step ladder to get me almost to the top of the RV ladder, and I support the bottom of the ladder with a floor jack. I've been thinking about making an adjustable support that can be carried in a storage compartment. It would rest on the ground under the ladder and adjust to the height of the bottom rung of the latter. This is our forth RV with a rear ladder and the first one that has such a flimsy ladder.

Mr Sunshine 10-31-2015 02:49 PM

Coaches with a rear slide like our Vegas 25.2. have no place for a rear ladder. I use a collapsible ladder, that I bought online. Much cheaper there than at the RV stores. It doesn't take up much space in the storage bay, and is rarely used. Perhaps having it prevents needing it, like taking an umbrella sometimes seems to keep it from raining.
Falling from a flimsy ladder is a risk not worth taking!

Metalman 10-31-2015 02:53 PM

How long is your ladder when collapsed and where do you store it?

rbmartiniv 10-31-2015 07:58 PM

The ladder is very fragile compared to the ladder that was on the rear of my Fleetwood.

Mr Sunshine 11-01-2015 12:09 PM

The telescoping ladder I have is 12.5 feet long, 32 inches retracted. It is aluminum and weighs about 25 pounds. Takes up much less space than the folding ones from the infomercials or an extension ladder. On our Vegas 25.2, it fits nicely in the back compartment outside, under the bed slide out. It might fit in the pass through between the front compartments, but I have some other longer things there. It would fit nicely on the wall of the jumbo compartment in some coaches.

When fully extended, it does sag some, but still has a safe and sturdy feel. I see them on ebay for around $60, plus another 20 for shipping. Have had mine for 8 years, rarely need it, but priceless on occasion, much like my little air compressor or most of the tools I take along!

Metalman 11-01-2015 12:27 PM

The latter sounds like it will work for me (if it will hold my weight) and I think I have a space where it can be stored in the RV.

Mr Sunshine 11-01-2015 02:52 PM

I think the rating on my telescoping ladder is 225#. For what that is worth. I think the rating is a CYA liability thing.

By comparison, some of these factory RV ladders must be rated around 100#. I once saw an oversize RV tech break the bottom step off of a coach before shifting his full weight onto it.

Metalman 11-01-2015 05:11 PM

I suspect that the factory ladders on some RVs are primarily for looks. Sort of like the ladders on the custom vans back in the 80s to mid 90s.

rving2015 05-16-2016 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rbmartiniv (Post 20749)
The bottom rungs of the rear ladders on the 2016 Thor Challenger 37KT are too close to the ground. The first time I pulled into a driveway the ladder touched the pavement and the bottom rung was bent outward. I got a hacksaw and cut it off at the creases made by it bending. I took two 3/4" pvc 90 degree elbows (slip on), spray painted them, and connected the bottom of the ladder to the two brackets. The paint isn't an exact match but its close enough. It's not a tight fit either, so a few layers of electrical tape around the aluminum tubing is needed to make it tight enough to stay on. I would glue it but don't know what to use to bond pvc to painted aluminum. Here are some pics. I don't know how to put them in proper order, but you can figure it out.

Hi Robert,

I have the 2016 Thor Challenger 37tb and now that i purchased the roadmaster tow defender it looks like i'm going to have to trim the ladder and do what you have done. How is the pvc 90 degree elbows holding up for you and what did you end up using to permanently attach the pvc elbows to the aluminum ladder and lastly...do you use the ladder? Wondering how it holds up with weight...

rbmartiniv 05-16-2016 06:22 PM

The easy answer first. Yes, I use the ladder, but very "judiciously." It has held up so far, the PVC elbows haven't come off yet. Unfortunately, I can't remember what adhesive I used. It may have been one of the J-B Weld products. I remember it indicated it would work on pvs and metal surfaces. The only problem I have with the fix is not being able to get the bottom ladder bolts as tight as I would like (the ladder isn't real tight against the RV body). If you come up with a better way, let me know. Good luck.

rving2015 05-16-2016 08:27 PM

Thanks...

I will let you know the route i decide to take.

CasaLoca 05-17-2016 11:29 PM

I find the idea of using PVC fitting on a ladder quite disturbing. Even more so when you disguise them by painting them. My thought is that some service tech will think you have a serviceable ladder and try to use it. When your plastic repair fails and he falls, insurance may not cover your liability.
Chuck Peck in CasaLoca

rbmartiniv 05-18-2016 12:27 AM

I understand what you are saying, but I don't believe it's really a problem. The PVC elbows don't support the ladder or even a step. They do hold the bottom of the ladder out from the body of the RV. I suppose the worse that could happen if the elbows did break would be getting the paint scraped up. I don't know what else to do when Thor installs a ladder that is too long for the coach.

Chucke 08-26-2017 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Sunshine (Post 20766)
Coaches with a rear slide like our Vegas 25.2. have no place for a rear ladder. I use a collapsible ladder, that I bought online. Much cheaper there than at the RV stores. It doesn't take up much space in the storage bay, and is rarely used. Perhaps having it prevents needing it, like taking an umbrella sometimes seems to keep it from raining.
Falling from a flimsy ladder is a risk not worth taking!

Thank you Mr. Sunshine, I was thinking of adding a ladder to the side of our 25.2. I need to go up to the roof to set the tailgater up. I really like your idea of a collapsible ladder! :)

SuperD 08-26-2017 04:38 AM

Rough up the connections with coarse grit sandpaper then use some JB Weld.

RV Pirate 09-02-2017 09:31 PM

Clever idea to fix your ladder. 2 part epoxy will hold pretty much anything to anything once it sets and it can fill small gaps as well. Comes in a syringe, Walmart and Lowe's should have it. Hope this helps.

Metalman 09-02-2017 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CasaLoca (Post 34729)
I find the idea of using PVC fitting on a ladder quite disturbing. Even more so when you disguise them by painting them. My thought is that some service tech will think you have a serviceable ladder and try to use it. When your plastic repair fails and he falls, insurance may not cover your liability.
Chuck Peck in CasaLoca

Any service tech who scrambles up the back of an RV without checking the sturdiness of the ladder shouldn't be working on RVs.


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