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Old 06-10-2018, 12:05 AM   #11
vkb
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1 KC's Big Box
State: Kansas
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Originally Posted by Chance View Post
It’s interesting in the two sales reports that Thor has a larger market share in Cs versus As, which is good, but trail way back in Bs where growth rate is highest. Winnebago and Hymer are each much larger than Thor in van campers. Granted, total volume of Bs is small by comparison to As and Cs.

Kay, as i mentioned in other thread, we’re also in the middle between those two sizes. An Axis 24.1, which can sleep up to 5, is much greater in size than we need 99% of the time. The Travato floorplan we like has forward-facing seats for two others and can haul bikes which are must-haves, but we really don’t like corner beds or wet baths. Plus it just feels tight even for two, so taking two others along is hard to imagine even if young grandkids.

Since vehicle OEMs are unlikely to make much larger vans (which would be ideal), it would at least be nice to see one or two RV manufacturers offer compact Class As that are significantly smaller and more fuel efficient than Axis, but still significantly larger than a Travato Class B.

One idea that Hymer has mentioned is having a Class B with option to tow an aero lightweight trailer when more space is needed. That could work provided the base van was designed from the ground up for that purpose. Unfortunately, the present ProMaster van doesn’t have much towing capacity.
Chance … keep in mind … even tho the Axis is rated to sleep 5 and it will...5 people inside that motorhome for any length of time will be close! Say..inclement weather situation.

The Travato 59K which Ron drove...had the wet bath, which we were willing to accept in downsizing...and those twin beds are awesome...the refrig is the size of a postage stamp as well as the microwave. I would have have major adjustments to make. These units are nice, but a person must be willing to accept those limitations when downsizing. The Travato with the corner/murphy bed we ruled out as our first 21' B+ had a corner bed and we swore we would never have another...climbing over one to get out is not fun and gets old quickly...even tho we put up with it for 3+ yrs !! and we still say, if that Starflyte had had a slide we would have kept it much longer !

Yes, the Axis does not get great gas mileage, but that is something we are willing to accept at this point in time...and have for the last 20 years with the various motorhomes and trailer we have had.

We viewed the Hymer online and some other units .. on our upcoming trip we will have no time restrictions and plan to stop at a few dealers to checkout what else might be available...until then
WE STILL LOVE OUR AXIS !!

K
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