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Old 11-13-2018, 07:38 AM   #21
Jevad
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 30D
State: New Jersey
Posts: 37
THOR #13701
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Originally Posted by javelin View Post
Well at least you or family have not frozen....yet. The main thing is to make sure your pipes don’t freeze in the coach.....people can huddle around a space heater or put on more clothes to stay warm. You may want to call a mobile tech as that may be less costly than a major freeze and water leak in your coach..... or a divorce. LOL.


In the mean time, if the weather permits (no rain/low winds), I would be tempted to leave the furnace door off in the day time while you standby for it to fail again.......and then carefully move select “start circuit” wires (like +12v and ground; on off reset switch or thermostat or control board; motor) in the furnace area to determine if/when the fan starts up (during a constant thermostat call for heat of course). If no intermittant wiring trouble is found then try your tapping technique around furnace devices to home in on the fault location.


You said previously that you measured a few volts only (between red to blue on the inside thermostat during the failure time – which is essentially +12V and ground per your schematic). For voltage to drop to a couple volts (implies high current loading or high resistance intermittant connections) is not normal especially with no apparent fuse blow or smoking components. Maybe just a bad meter reading ......or flakey high resistance +12v or ground wire connection or wire conductor itself causing intermittant high resistance conditions.


One other option which requires the +12 feed turned off to the furnace (fuse pull best at source) is to use the ohmmeter setting on your multimeter and place it across individual wires that should provide short ccts (low resistance on the meter) and then wiggle each wire being measured to see if the meter reading changes). This could indicate a bad wire or broken conductor inside the insulation. It is best to have small alligator clips on the meter leads so you can clip on each wire end and wiggle wires. Ohmmeter readings must be taken on dead circuits – reading a live circuit will potentially damage your meter. Remember to reset meter to read volts again when you are done with any ohmmeter tests.
That’s about all I can suggest.
First, I really appreciate your input... we are astounded by the responses by you and others who have offered insight. Its an awkward and lonely feeling camping for the first time in our new (and not cheap) RV to have to worry about keeping warm and not frozen or more importantly, keeping the coach from causing damage by frozen lines. Wife and family are OK, although not the best experience for them the first time out. Not sure I can speak for my neighbors at the camp site that may have caught a glimpse of me running out in the middle of the night/early morning in my boxer shorts and slippers to give my furnace a kickstart/thump.... just glad it wasnt captured on Funniest home videos!!!

We decided to head back home after Sunday for fear my "Heat thump" jumpstart might stop working... We are home now in NJ, expecting some stormy weather later today, I decided to winterize the coach (blew out the water lines/pump and antifreezed the traps) as it may be a few weeks before we opt to take her out again. Ironically the furnace worked today without need for my thump, I was hoping it would fail so I could take some more measurements. It was a little warmer today, so maybe once it cools down over the next few days I will see if I can recreate the failure and take the measurements as noted.

I did post a link to videos showing the issue (used Youtube posts) earlier post.

Once again, Thank you.

Dave.
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