Axis 24.1 Door Entrance Lock Failure

[SChin]

Seabee,


How did you determine your new lock assembly was made of steel?

 

[Seabee-THOR]

As I said, The latch mechanism, which is the thing that goes in and out when you close the door and has the slanted end (NOT the deadbolt!), in the old lock ass'y was NOT magnetic all the way through- including the end INSIDE the ass'y with the two 1/8th inch square rods. If you try to scratch it you are wasting your time. Using a magnet, it is definitely ferrous all the way through. Pot metal or a derivative is soft, scratches easily, and is NOT a ferrous material.

 

[Ghh]

I experienced a break of the part in mention on my 2017 Ace 30.5 this weekend. Can you buy just the plunger or do you have to buy a new unit. Everything else looks ok. Thanks

 

[Seabee-THOR]

Door Lock

I experienced a break of the part in mention on my 2017 Ace 30.5 this weekend. Can you buy just the plunger or do you have to buy a new unit. Everything else looks ok. Thanks

I doubt that individual parts are available. I would just change the whole thing- It may turn into a can of worms- take it apart, then try to get everything back in place while you try to get the cover back on.
I asked for extra keys. He told me that it only comes as a kit and I could get blanks from Tri-Mark and get them cut locally. The locksmiths here carry the blanks so it was cheaper and easier to get them here.
also, read Jimeth1616 's post earlier. It may already be a "can of worms". Good Luck!

 

[Scubawise]

This is nuts .was this fixed after 2017?

 

[pwoods]

Not only did they not fix it, they made it worse with the lock change in 2018, IMHO. Jimeth1616 is absolutely right. I've had the same problems and my mechanic has also seen problems with the new lock. At least with the old lock there are alternatives.

 

[Scubawise]

But I have a 2020 vegas..how can I tell if fixed?

 

[pwoods]

Scubawise, we are talking apples and oranges. The old lock thru 2017 can be fixed by replacing it. The newer lock is a different model and doesn't have the same problem of pot metal vs real metal. IMHO, the newer lock is a poor lock and because of its dimensions there are no aftermarket substitutes.

 

[electric]

IMHO, the newer lock is a poor lock and because of its dimensions there are no aftermarket substitutes.

I'm curious what makes the new lock poor? I just got new 2022 Vegas and the bottom lock sometimes opens when driving, even though it was verified closed. For now I can't use the top lock as it needs adjustment to fit into slot. So, clearly the lock is not perfect, but I wonder if you know of some other problems with it, which I should be aware of? Thanks

 

[taylorbob1]

I'm curious what makes the new lock poor? I just got new 2022 Vegas and the bottom lock sometimes opens when driving, even though it was verified closed. For now I can't use the top lock as it needs adjustment to fit into slot. So, clearly the lock is not perfect, but I wonder if you know of some other problems with it, which I should be aware of? Thanks

Becuz of the large size, you cannot replace with a digital lock

You need to fix your upper dead bolt becuz without it functioning properly, you will always get that partial opening from the bottom lock while traveling over bumpy roads

 

[RMHDR]

How to ID a pot metal plunger

There is a way to ID which plunger that a new handle has other than a magnet, which if you're ordering a new handle is not possible. If you look at the plunger part where it goes into the handle, there are 2 dark places that are barely visible, but if they can be seen, you are seeing a pot metal part. The steel part does not have those grooves. I have yet to see one on Amazon that has a steel part.

 

[grnach]

Here are instructions for adjusting the Trimark 030-0900 door latch:
https://www.trimarkcorp.com/en/medi...rance Door Hardware Latch Adjustment_Rev3.pdf

 

[sportcoupe]

I have a 2022 Vegas and the door handle lock assembly isn't found on the Trimark website. Not sure if it's a new vendor or just a brand new design with brand new problems.

 

[Hooligan2]

I had the same problem on 2016 Siesta..24ST. last month- There is a repair kit, replaces only the pot metal latch assembly with machined steel part. Easy install with good directions. Old latch must be removed from the door to repair or parts (spacers) will fall inside the door.. Repairs only one common model of trimark, see the photo..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/T507-RV-De...t-Trimark-060-1650-Over-900-sold/154472314555

 

[Hooligan2]

FWIW- Only some stainless steel is magnetic. Adding chromium and nickel in the stainless steel (higher quality) makes it less magnetic.

 

[Capeteacher]

So this just did happen to me tonight. Stopping for the night at a Cracker Barrel off of 95S in NC. Went outside to check if I was up far enough. Door opened from outside. Went in moved up a bit then went to go into the restaurant for dinner. No luck. Door wouldn’t open from the inside. Luckily someone pulled up and I asked him to try the door. No problem. I took out the screws to see what was going on and that little plastic piece fell out and yes it was broken. I saw I could move the piece with a screwdriver so I put the inside back on leaving out the screw covered by the screen. I figured I would take the piece off in the morning again to get out. At least I could lock the door. After putting the inside piece on I tried the handle and it works perfectly.
So now my question is should I still replace the whole system even though it works but the plastic piece is off. BTW I couldn’t figure out where that piece is supposed to fit. I have a 2014 Vegas. Thanks

 

[DebM11]

2016 Vegas

I don’t think my doors are working correctly but they are opening and closing. To open from inside I have found that first I must open the handle for the inside screen door to release its latch and then open the outside door. When we first bought two years ago (used - and maybe a rental) it seemed the doors worked in tandem for exiting the Vegas. Maybe will help someone else on the future.

 

[sedcom]

Happened to us as well on our Vegas 24.1. And yes had to climb out the window to get tools. Lock replaced. But now I leave a screw driver in the bottom drawer inside.

 

[Capeteacher]

Happened to us as well on our Vegas 24.1. And yes had to climb out the window to get tools. Lock replaced. But now I leave a screw driver in the bottom drawer inside.

I have a 2014 Vegas. What brand and model did you get. Are all the door locks standard on the Vegas

 

[sedcom]

https://www.amazon.ca/RV-Designer-T...4+1+rv+door+locking+mechanism,aps,169&sr=8-28

Although I think I would go for a combo one if it ever happens again. I found my failure was the lock was all cast except one very small L shaped piece that was hard plastic and it broke. Anyway, good luck.