Finally... a new get the h$)) out of my way law: Fines up to $350 and be thrown in prison for driving one mile under the speed limit

[dkoldman]

I know. I was just poking the bear. Or the quack duck

Oh, I see what you did.

 

[dkoldman]

I usually dive with the cruise set at 55 mph using the GPS when towing and 64 mph or so not towing. I rarely pass anything since my max daily mileage is 350 to 400 miles. Spending 21 years flying at 500 ft above the ground at 600 ft/sec has satisfied my "Need For Speed".

Why 55?
Master Tow recommends a maximum towing speed of 55 mph when the dolly is loaded. This guideline helps ensure stability, safety, and proper handling—especially since tow dollies like the Master Tow 77T and 80THD don’t have suspension systems, relying instead on the towed vehicle’s suspension to absorb road shock.

As you are not passing, or in the far left passing lane, the laws or angst is not directed toward you. Without the laws, my attitude is Lead, Follow or get the H$LL out of my way. But I have seen people passing with U Haul trailers doing 60mph when the speed limit was 70. Their logic, they wanted to pass someone like you that may be doing 55 mph for your own legitimate reasons.

If so, the new law states that the person doing 60mph is at risk of going to jail or being fined unless they speed up to 70 and pass the 55mph vehicle.

I never get made if I am in the passing lane doing at least the speed limit. I don't care how many cars are ahead of me.

This law is noteworthy in Louisiana if it is enforced because 1 mile less than speed limit can put you in jail. The law is saying you want to drive slow, fine, stay out of the passing lanes.

 

[Lt Keefer]

Texas has a slow poke law since 1997 and it is never enforced. In reality, any speed in the right hand lanes above the posted minimum speed is legal and if you can't deal with that then your license should be revoked.

 

[Chateau_Nomad]

Never saw or heard of "road rage" in the 1970's or 1980's... hmmm... what changed? Where did all the anger come from?? Maybe it's concentrated microplastics?

 

[dkoldman]

Never saw or heard of "road rage" in the 1970's or 1980's... hmmm... what changed? Where did all the anger come from?? Maybe it's concentrated microplastics?

I think the anger comes from those trying to drive the speed limit in the passing lane and all to frequently get blocked by someone driving some at some speed below the speed limit. That person impedes or prevent other drivers from driving the legal posted speed.

Worse, that may even cause some to snap, is when the above slow driver pulls in front of vehicle that was about to overpass it. It forces unintended tailgating and the driver is front questions why the driver behind them is so outraged.

I hope to be able to report and send those dash cam videos one day. They really are annoying, and they are dangerous to be on the highways.

 

[ducksface]

Today I followed someone doing 47 in a 65 until we got to the passing lane and then it took 72 to get around him because he was doing 67.


How is it we haven't seen any of them justifying?
They're usually chirping right up.
Have we finally become indisputable in our logic?

 

[ghnl]

Never saw or heard of "road rage" in the 1970's or 1980's...

I think it was there - it's just that the roads weren't as crowded as they are now.

When I was in Boy Scouts (yeah, back before dirt was invented...) we had an assistant scoutmaster who was the nicest guy - until he got behind the wheel. It was like Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde. He'd rage at anything/anyone and drove like a maniac. My friend & I (we were teenagers by then) wouldn't let any of the younger kids ride with him. He eventually got so many tickets due to his terrible driving he was required to take a class for aggressive drivers. We thought that'd be the end of it but, no. After "graduating" he'd chase down other drivers and try to make a citizen's arrest and send them to driver school...

 

[dkoldman]

Today I followed someone doing 47 in a 65 until we got to the passing lane and then it took 72 to get around him because he was doing 67.


How is it we haven't seen any of them justifying?
They're usually chirping right up.
Have we finally become indisputable in our logic?

The reason I have ZERO empathy for these people is simple. The way I see it, if I approach you from behind on the Interstate, common sense says that I am driving faster than you. If a slow driver wanted to be courteous, they would simply get out of the way. But some view you in a RV as a slow moving vehicle; so they cut you off, and don't expect you to need to drive faster than them.

I think some who have argued the virtues of slow speeds in the past, are starting to see the logic. I know some laws exist that are not enforced, but the threat of going to jail for being 1 mile under the speed limit in the passing lane may get undivided attention as these violators can end up in jail with criminals records.

 

[Chateau_Nomad]

I think it was there - it's just that the roads weren't as crowded as they are now.

When I was in Boy Scouts (yeah, back before dirt was invented...) we had an assistant scoutmaster who was the nicest guy - until he got behind the wheel. It was like Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde. He'd rage at anything/anyone and drove like a maniac. My friend & I (we were teenagers by then) wouldn't let any of the younger kids ride with him. He eventually got so many tickets due to his terrible driving he was required to take a class for aggressive drivers. We thought that'd be the end of it but, no. After "graduating" he'd chase down other drivers and try to make a citizen's arrest and send them to driver school...

It's rare to see females "road raging"... probably less than 5% of the impatient boys. They are usually just mindlessly tailgating while texting.

Mixing impatience, temperament and firearms is a nasty mix. It's why I strive to avoid populated areas. Driving through some cities is like a high-speed demolition derby with firearms. YIKES!

 

[ghnl]

I think some who have argued the virtues of slow speeds in the past, are starting to see the logic.

I see it not as advocating for driving slow but for driving within reasonable limits. Too many see the speed limit as a suggestion. They think they can drive 5 to 10 over 'and not get caught'. I do agree that driving significantly slower than reasonable is not safe. Drive right and pass left - to each his own (within reason).

 

[ghnl]

It's rare to see females "road raging"... probably less than 5% of the impatient boys.

True until you meet the exception that proves the rule...

Riding my motorcycle to work one day there were 3 or 4 cars behind a slow car in the left lane. One by one they move over and pass her on the right (yes, it was a her). I was then behind her and waited a few minutes as the right lane was empty. After she made no effort to move over I switched on my headlight modulator. She slammed on the brakes (tires smoking & screeching). Since I was not tailgating I was able to brake and avoid a crash. I assumed I may have spooked her with the modulating headlight so I hung back and waited for her to move to the right lane. When she did not I again flashed the headlight modulator. Another tire screeching brake check. At this point I figured she wanted to kill me so I hung way back until the highway went from two to three lanes. As she continued (in the far left left lane) I passed her in the far right lane.

 

[ducksface]

Me pulling over so you can pass or me passing you...
I try to make you way less than a memory.
You're the FLICK outa my life either way.

 

[Chateau_Nomad]

True until you meet the exception that proves the rule...

Riding my motorcycle to work one day there were 3 or 4 cars behind a slow car in the left lane. One by one they move over and pass her on the right (yes, it was a her). I was then behind her and waited a few minutes as the right lane was empty. After she made no effort to move over I switched on my headlight modulator. She slammed on the brakes (tires smoking & screeching). Since I was not tailgating I was able to brake and avoid a crash. I assumed I may have spooked her with the modulating headlight so I hung back and waited for her to move to the right lane. When she did not I again flashed the headlight modulator. Another tire screeching brake check. At this point I figured she wanted to kill me so I hung way back until the highway went from two to three lanes. As she continued (in the far left left lane) I passed her in the far right lane.

Maybe try a pit maneuver next time! That gets their attention every time!

 

[ghnl]

Maybe try a pit maneuver next time! That gets their attention every time!

Hard to do with a motorcycle. Need a Crown Vic...

 

[dkoldman]

I see it not as advocating for driving slow but for driving within reasonable limits. Too many see the speed limit as a suggestion. They think they can drive 5 to 10 over 'and not get caught'. I do agree that driving significantly slower than reasonable is not safe. Drive right and pass left - to each his own (within reason).

The article is not about driving at reasonable speeds or speeding. The article is about new Law in Louisiana against those that drive in the passing lane and not driving at least the speed limit. Their point of emphasis is one mile under speed limit is illegal in passing lane so if enforced, at the police officer discretion you could be fined or eventually go to jail.

My comment in post #28 was speculative as to why some on this forum have not responded with their views on the new law for consequences of DRIVING TOO SLOW. I don't agree that those posting on this forum that the Duck was admonishing were discussing speeds within speeds with reasonable limits in the past because it is next to impossible to drive an RV outside of reasonable limits given the road you may be on. City, Rural or even Residential.

I am sure I could never drive 10 miles over a posted speed limit on any road assuming the speed limit is just. That is not reasonable and no one I have read in this forum has ever advocated that. Even for those that may choose to drive 5 miles over the speed limit, it is independent of drivers that impede traffic by driving under the speed limit in the passing lanes, unless they are some that say they will drive slow in passing because they feel it is their responsibility to try to slow other drivers down? The latter is what has been happening and some people are getting pissed and thus the increase of road occurrences. Have you ever seen truckers block two lanes when an upcoming merge may be 2 freaking miles ahead. They will even try to block the side road hatefully blocking the vehicle, all in the name of a Holier than thou mentality.

 

[dkoldman]

It's rare to see females "road raging"... probably less than 5% of the impatient boys. They are usually just mindlessly tailgating while texting.

Mixing impatience, temperament and firearms is a nasty mix. It's why I strive to avoid populated areas. Driving through some cities is like a high-speed demolition derby with firearms. YIKES!

A few minutes ago, I was going to walmart. I was South bound on a 3 lane road about to dip to the left for 4th lane to make turn, I had the yellow light to make a safe turn if possible from the 3 lanes of Northbound traffic. Northbound actually had 5 lanes as one dedicated for left and one dedicated for right into the shopping center.

So there is only one vehicle North bound and it was a She if it matters, she was in the far right to turn right into shopping center, but she saw me with my left signal was on. I was pushing for her to go ahead and make the freaking turn so I could turn behind her, but she just slowed down, by the time I got to turn she had stopped, so I was about to stop when I realized she was just waiting on me to stop so she could go. I just looked at her and drove on. She does not merit a license. She thinks she is driving safe, but she is dangerous. People like that get hit in the rear alot, but it is always someone's fault let them tell it.

 

[Chateau_Nomad]

Ohio has had the "keep right unless passing" since at least the late 1970's. State route 7 between Belpre and Marietta is divided access and was always posted with signs... something on the order of "Keep right unless passing - state law". People back then seemed to have more courtesy and respect for other drivers... and no CELL PHONE DISTRACTIONS.

Ohio state route 33 between Lancaster and Columbus (divided access) has gradually turned into a combination of the Autobahn, a drag strip and the Indy 500... drafting and all. The speed limit of 60 is merely a suggestion... 70 to 75 is common. On DIVIDED ACCESS with no on-ramps.

Why is this? Because there's absolutely NO enforcement AND no police patrol. 20 years ago you would see a minimum of a half dozen State Patrol cruisers and occasional sheriff. Traffic flowed at average of 63 -64 back then. Everyone got where they were going. Then everyone got in an all-fired hurry.

 

[Chateau_Nomad]

A few minutes ago, I was going to walmart. I was South bound on a 3 lane road about to dip to the left for 4th lane to make turn, I had the yellow light to make a safe turn if possible from the 3 lanes of Northbound traffic. Northbound actually had 5 lanes as one dedicated for left and one dedicated for right into the shopping center.

So there is only one vehicle North bound and it was a She if it matters, she was in the far right to turn right into shopping center, but she saw me with my left signal was on. I was pushing for her to go ahead and make the freaking turn so I could turn behind her, but she just slowed down, by the time I got to turn she had stopped, so I was about to stop when I realized she was just waiting on me to stop so she could go. I just looked at her and drove on. She does not merit a license. She thinks she is driving safe, but she is dangerous. People like that get hit in the rear alot, but it is always someone's fault let them tell it.

Not unlike people who seem to have forgotten since their driver test how to execute a multi -way stop... 3-way, 4-way etc. Everyone's moving like clockwork (counter-clockwise) until ONE PERSON decides that text is more important than keeping the flow moving. They're usually the clueless maniacs in a roundabout too.

I mean... c'mon people! I'm 70 years old! I'm supposed to be that stereotype of the frail grandpa hunched over the wheel!

 

[dkoldman]

Ohio has had the "keep right unless passing" since at least the late 1970's. State route 7 between Belpre and Marietta is divided access and was always posted with signs... something on the order of "Keep right unless passing - state law". People back then seemed to have more courtesy and respect for other drivers... and no CELL PHONE DISTRACTIONS.

Ohio state route 33 between Lancaster and Columbus (divided access) has gradually turned into a combination of the Autobahn, a drag strip and the Indy 500... drafting and all. The speed limit of 60 is merely a suggestion... 70 to 75 is common. On DIVIDED ACCESS with no on-ramps.

Why is this? Because there's absolutely NO enforcement AND no police patrol. 20 years ago you would see a minimum of a half dozen State Patrol cruisers and occasional sheriff. Traffic flowed at average of 63 -64 back then. Everyone got where they were going. Then everyone got in an all-fired hurry.

I think everyone has a keep right law. The point of this article is to say you could go to jail for driving one mile less than posted speed limit. So your highway 59 mph could be hefty fine or jail if in the passing lane. Enforcement is different issue especially if in a lawless area.

From my experience I have never seen 60mph speed limits on interstates unless it was a construction zone? In Texas speed limits are 65 in congested cities, 70, 75 or 80 in west texas.

Again the point of angst for me are the drivers. that are in the passing lanes and not doing at least the speed limit.

I am hoping that Enforcement will follow as people can report and. Provide videos of these drivers. As least the owners of the vehicles can be held responsible. I am sure repeat offenders will soon get the message. Stay out of passing lanes or speed up to speed limit.

Again I ain't mad at anyone driving the speed limit.

 

[dkoldman]

Not unlike people who seem to have forgotten since their driver test how to execute a multi -way stop... 3-way, 4-way etc. Everyone's moving like clockwork (counter-clockwise) until ONE PERSON decides that text is more important than keeping the flow moving. They're usually the clueless maniacs in a roundabout too.

I mean... c'mon people! I'm 70 years old! I'm supposed to be that stereotype of the frail grandpa hunched over the wheel!

The point here is the lady had no stop. She had a green light plus she was just turning right. She was just scared had no business driving. She might have just been 30 as far as I know. But she stopped!!! I had a yellow turn arrow so I went. My angst was I was slowing down to turn behind her. I could have been gone if I knew she was going to stop.