New tire ? Thor windsport 35 m

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I give up. if YOU'ALL want to take your pride-n-joy full size motorhome to a passenger tire dealer---have at it. I'll stick with those in the know!!
Know what?
That's my question.
Why do you think they know more?
I'm not taking the motorhome...I'm taking a plain old round tire.
 
I have a question for Beau and other older and experienced folk:

What ever happened to those balance machines that balanced the tire while mounted on the vehicle...essentially balancing that entire leg of the suspension?
OSHA - technician too close to spinning wheel assembly without an idiot guard. You also had to "have the touch" to operate it correctly - no computer involved.

Now all you have to do is put the wheel assembly on the machine and follow the computer screen instructions.
 
When I first purchased my Class A on an F-53, I couldn't find a single truck tire shop that would do a front end alignment. I went to every one on the east side of Austin, Texas and every one said they don't work on motor homes, they work on trucks. Luckily, a semi local Ford dealer has a truck center. There is no difference in the technology used at a retail tire shop versus a truck shop. It's a matter of scale. The 20s on my last Dodge truck were just as big as the 19.5s on my Hurricane. The local tire shop also doesn't put your rig behind all the fleet trucks that have an open account. Why waste your time on a one off when you have a steady stream of regular customers?
 
I have a question for Beau and other older and experienced folk:

What ever happened to those balance machines that balanced the tire while mounted on the vehicle...essentially balancing that entire leg of the suspension?
Those balancers were made by Alemite which was a division of Stewart-Warner. They were called Alemite Electronic Wheel Balancers. Several are for sale on Ebay. The kit included a stanchion with a movable piston. The upper part attached to the lower front suspension arm. The piston had a magnet on it and when it passed an electric coil, it generated enough electricity to fire the strobe light. The tech adjusted the stanchion so that strobe would fire only when the wheel was it lowest point. You got two strobes when you started out (one up and one down). The tire was driven by a 1/2 hp constant speed motor with a steel, grooved friction wheel on the motor's cart. The operator started the motor on the cart and when it got up to speed just jammed the friction wheel into the tire and spun the tire to about 80 mph or the tire started vibrating wildly. The operator just noted where the tire was when the strobe fired and that was where the weight went. It usually took several tries to get it right. You could only balance the front tires, as the rear solid axle and dif on leaf springs was to heavy and inaccurate, thus an extra charge for the rear tires, as they had to be swapped to the front for balancing.

In the early 1950, I worked at a Socony-Vacuum Oil gas station (later Mobil Oil) filling glass oil bottles for the display out between the pumps. The two bay gas station had a sign stating "Dynamic Wheel Balancing HERE".

On the tire question, "Big O Tire Stores" carries Sumitomo in the 245/70-19.5 size. They can dynamically balance and mount the tires. I have six. The Sumitomo website says the ST918 is made specifically for RVs. Walmart also can order them, but will not install them. Balanced and mounted the are about $380 each with a road hazard grantee.
 
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Agree with ACE. OSHA didn't like the spin balancer. We had several wheel weights turn into missiles

Spot on description of the spin balancer Beau (y)

The other issue is the tire, wheel & rotor or in my day drums were all balanced. Then when a guy took his car to get tires rotated at XYZ tire shop the tires could be out of balance as you moved tires balanced on a front rotor to a rear drum. Our experience we had more issues with bias ply tires than the "new" radials they put on the top-of-the-line models.
At the Chrysler/Plymouth garage I worked for we only spun balanced problem child tires on cars that were under warranty. Otherwise, they got the bubble balancer treatment
 
Agree with ACE. OSHA didn't like the spin balancer. We had several wheel weights turn into missiles

Spot on description of the spin balancer Beau (y)

The other issue is the tire, wheel & rotor or in my day drums were all balanced. Then when a guy took his car to get tires rotated at XYZ tire shop the tires could be out of balance as you moved tires balanced on a front rotor to a rear drum. Our experience we had more issues with bias ply tires than the "new" radials they put on the top-of-the-line models.
At the Chrysler/Plymouth garage I worked for we only spun balanced problem child tires on cars that were under warranty. Otherwise, they got the bubble balancer treatment
I think that is why modern wheel balancing machines have guards around them. Also the machine only spin the tires to about 20 mph because the machines are so sensitive. Hunter makes a 'Road Force" wheel balancer which works well to identify the weights needed for problem tires.
 
Part of the reason I initiated this balancer conversation was to show that some of us know things that others can, now, never know. The knowledge dies with us.
About tires
About life
About reasons TOLD.

I was involved in one of these machines for only a day. At the damnably high speed it was turning the tire started to walk due to caster or something. I'm pushing it against the tire...the steering is turning...it tried to get away...I found something else to do except learn to run that machine.


Should we move on to the new(ish) colored dots on tire sidewalls? Originally a dot to align the valve stem...now there're different colors and one of my new tires has all three....
 
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