Speakers above jackknife sofa 2019 ACE 30.2

[Danjones2]

I am at loss on this one. The two speakers above the jackknife sofa are not working. I have pulled them and they are wired correctly. I have looked through manuals and can’t seem to ID them or what they are connected to. Are these normally connected to the house radio. I have not pulled the house radio to check for loose wires. Any help is appreciated.

 

[macdaddy1111]

Should be the "B" channel on dash radio.

 

[16ACE27]

I am at loss on this one. The two speakers above the jackknife sofa are not working. I have pulled them and they are wired correctly. I have looked through manuals and can’t seem to ID them or what they are connected to. Are these normally connected to the house radio. I have not pulled the house radio to check for loose wires. Any help is appreciated.

Where does the sound come from on your dash radio? Most ACEs have speakers just behind the cab that are used for the dash radio.

BUT, as this is a 2019 MH and you are probably not the original owner there's not telling what was done before you, OR BY YOU.

Didn't you just replace the dash radio in February? But at that time it was a 2018 30.2?

 

[Danjones2]

Yes sorry it is a 2018. The dash radio has been replaced and the speakers are just behind the driver/passengers seats and two (I believe were added) down near the floor on the side. That all is working. The two speakers above the sofa have not worked since I bought the motorhome. Not a big deal just running out of ideas. The two over the bed in the rear work fine “A” speakers on the house radio, and the exterior speakers work fine on the “B” setting of the house radio. Thought maybe they were tied to the TV over the dinette but messed with setting on it and no luck

 

[Beau388]

My over the couch (now loveseats) speakers are on the rear fader slider for the Axxera dash radio. Since the speakers are in a slide, the wires from the head unit go under the coach over the the bathroom wire chase, where the speaker wires join with 120 volt and 12 volt wires. The wires in the sheath then go across the dinner booth floor in a chase and up the wall to the hollow floor of the cabinets above the loveseats.


I put variable intensity LED light strips on the slide's top valance, so I got really familiar with the slides wiring. I also converted the coach's 15 amp GFCI wiring to 12 awg and 20 amps, so I could use the portable induction cook top (inside and outside) at full power. That required new wiring to the GFCI duplex receptacle on the outer bathroom wall next to the dinette booth. That is when I found the speaker wires.

 

[16ACE27]

Yes sorry it is a 2018. The dash radio has been replaced and the speakers are just behind the driver/passengers seats and two (I believe were added) down near the floor on the side. That all is working. The two speakers above the sofa have not worked since I bought the motorhome. Not a big deal just running out of ideas. The two over the bed in the rear work fine “A” speakers on the house radio, and the exterior speakers work fine on the “B” setting of the house radio. Thought maybe they were tied to the TV over the dinette but messed with setting on it and no luck

So are you saying you have 4 speakers in the ceiling? 2 that work with the dash radio, plus two "add-on" speakers that work with the dash radio near the floor? But the other two ceiling speakers that are over the jacknife couch which faces the TV have never worked?

I, like you, suspect they may be tied to the TV, but how? You'll probably have to take the TV down to see what is plugged in where. There's also a chance they were/are tied directly into a DVD player in a cabinet (maybe above the couch?).

 

[Danjones2]

Sounds like I need to do a little more digging around. I will see what I can find and get back with results
Thanks for the info and help

 

[Danjones2]

Update
Went through the process last evening and traced the wire harness through the coach from back of radio harness to the front speakers over the sofa nothing noticeably out of place still in original bundle. Did a little test by jumping from good speaker connections on radio harness to the front speaker connections on the opposite harness plug.. got nothing. Pulled out an old speaker that had laying around and tested at the front speaker locations nothing there either. Messed with fader on dash radio just for fun and that did nothing as should be the case. The house radio does not have fade but balance left and right but that did nothing for the front speakers. I am sure I will keep messing with it to try to figure it out. Will post just for info if I figure something out

 

[ducksface]

Is this a concern due to something not working as you'd need or a wonderment as to what's what?

 

[FirstGene]

I have been going though the same questions regarding our new-to-us 2017 ACE 27.2.

In ours, the dash radio plays through the speakers under the dash and over the sofa. There may be a break in one speaker wire and that's why they don't work over the sofa. The bedroom radio plays through either the exterior speaker or the bedroom speakers. No TV plays through any of the 8 speakers so far as I can tell.

Figuring the Thor speakers are cheap and not wanting to do a major rewiring job, I bought a basic Samsung soundbar and a bluetooth transceiver to send the main cabin TV sound to the soundbar. I have yet to set it up, but it should be fairly simple. More difficult is where to put the soundbar. It was supposed to have some brackets, but what you get is not always the same as what is online, but I will have it somewhere opposite the dinette.

The soundbar was discounted to $100, but is now back to $120. It includes an integrated woofer and that is good because I didn't want another box to find a place for.

All the TV's are hard to remove or move away from the bracket holding it in place. If it were easy, rewiring house speakers to the outputs on the rear of the TV's would be fairly easy, but, alas, easy is not usually part of RV fixes.

I am hoping the bedroom TV speakers are good enough, because I don't want to come up with a fix for that.

 

[Beau388]

We have 28 inch LG S40T sound bar connected to the Axxerra TV by Toslink optical cable. It came with a WIFI linked 6" wireless remote bass speaker. Since the TV is in an overhead cabinet, I mounted the sound bar on the lower face of the cabinet. The base speaker is behind the center of the reclining love seats. The dinette booth has 120 volts off the inverter, so it was simple to put a junction box in the Romex and run a 14" piece of Romex to a new duplex receptacle.

 

[Beau388]

I have been going though the same questions regarding our new-to-us 2017 ACE 27.2.

In ours, the dash radio plays through the speakers under the dash and over the sofa. There may be a break in one speaker wire and that's why they don't work over the sofa. The bedroom radio plays through either the exterior speaker or the bedroom speakers. No TV plays through any of the 8 speakers so far as I can tell. [snip]

On some plant 750 coaches (mine for instance) the B speakers of the Jensen bedroom radio play the sound of the exterior TV. The speaker volume is controlled by a cell phone using the Jensen radio app.

 

[GeorgePal]

I just use a bada$$ Bluetooth speaker and use my phone. Not worth messing around with the dash radio or speakers. They will never equal a $200 bt speaker. Also works with the tvs with an RCA to BT adapter from Amazon. The adapter has line in and optical in and BT out. Cheap, rechargeable, works off USB too. 1Mii B06TX Bluetooth 5.2 Transmitter for TV to Wireless Headphone/Speaker, Bluetooth Adapter for TV w/Volume Control, AUX/RCA/Optical/Coaxial Audio Inputs, Plug n Play, aptX Low Latency & HD https://a.co/d/aBBzFaR

 

[ducksface]

We tried the Bluetooth thing for audio books.
We returned the speaker because while the speaker sucked, the idea was sound.

 

[FirstGene]

I found a Samsung soundbar with integrated woofer on sale, so I bought it and a bluetooth transceiver as recommended above. I couldn’t get the transceiver to work well. The power wire was too short. Instructions were a bunch of drawings and generally unintelligible, so I returned it.

I had looked at various ways to mount the soundbar—under the cabinet opposite the dinette and TV, over the passenger window, sitting on the window ledge behind the sofa, but unless I threaded wires from the TV across the cabin, it had to go on the dinette leaning against the wall and under the TV. That worked fine and the sound was not that close to us when we eat, and certainty better than the TV speakers. The places to attach the soundbar were not good for mounting under a cabinet and if on a wall, it was engineered to fall off after you go over a bump.

I also ordered a HDMI splitter for 2 in—DVD player and satellite receiver—with a remote to change them. I can send a movie to one TV and the satellite TV to a different one. I decided the work of unplugging cables and replugging cables was something I could do without since the HDMI splitter that came with the MH one had only one input.

Someday soon, I have to set up the satellite receiver and contact Dish to turn it on. Our parking space next to the house is not a good one for satellite antenna, but I think I can just clear the roof of the house and MH. Parking is on the north side of the house and the satellites are east of south.

The sound system in the MH is goofy and poorly designed with cheap radios and few options. The dash radio needs to be on, it appears, to use the back up and turn options—there are cameras in the side mirrors that activate the TV screen when the turn signals are working. Have not tried that yet. When I drove it home I could see along the sides in the mirrors, so I am unsure the cameras add much. It makes you look at the radio and not outside—if I can’t see along the side of the MH all I need is a concave mirror that will attach to the OEM mirror.

Note how many things are poorly engineered—hard to hang the soundbar, hard to understand the bluetooth transceiver instructions and short power cable, MH sound systems, side mirror camera system. These things come from China, S. Korea and the US, so engineering is bad everywhere for consumer goods.