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03-20-2018, 05:09 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Mobile Suites 38rssa
State: Alaska
Posts: 253
THOR #8691
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f450
Any body know the difference in bed height from a 15 drw 4x4 and 18 f450 2wd????
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2018 MS 38rssa
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03-21-2018, 03:12 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,838
THOR #1661
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Do your self a favor and save your $$$. Look at the new F350 2wd. The fact is it's a MUCH more capable truck than your current 15. Also consider licensing and insurance costs.
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03-21-2018, 03:34 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Mobile Suites 38rssa
State: Alaska
Posts: 253
THOR #8691
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Does the f450 have a higher insurance cost????
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03-22-2018, 01:44 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
THOR #1658
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cummins12V98
Do your self a favor and save your $$$. Look at the new F350 2wd. The fact is it's a MUCH more capable truck than your current 15. Also consider licensing and insurance costs.
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Ron Ron Ron... that is not what he asked.
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Originally Posted by f350ms38rssa
Does the f450 have a higher insurance cost????
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It might as it is in the “ commercial” classification. But you should call your insurance Co to be sure.
There are differences between the 350 vs 450. I believe the 450 has less power as it is detuned, it has bigger tires, larger brakes, better turning radios. If I remember correctly. I would check out a Ford forum as I am sure that that information would be on it. If not, you could always start a thread to get your answers.
But I would have to agree with Ron that the 350 would be more then capiable of towing your DRV listed.
Or you could always just buy a Ram 3500.
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03-22-2018, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,838
THOR #1661
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Ryan Ryan Ryan! "Or you could always just buy a Ram 3500." Not what he asked! HA
BUT I would have to agree.
The 450 with a pickup bed has the same TQ and HP.
Interested to hear back from OP the cost difference to license and insure each!
Cost will be MUCH more for the F450.
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03-22-2018, 02:18 PM
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Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Dallas
State: Texas
Posts: 31
THOR #3440
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f350ms38rssa
Any body know the difference in bed height from a 15 drw 4x4 and 18 f450 2wd????
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I currently have a 2011 F-450 and in the process of trading for a new F-450. I parked next to a 2018 F-450 4x4 a couple days ago to compare the differences. The 2018 is 3.5 inches taller at the tail gate than the 2011. I have looked at the F-350 and Dodge 3500 and have decided to go with the F-450 again because of the bigger brakes, bigger tires, gear ratio, and tighter turn radius. As far as the cost of insurance, I don't know if it is more or not as I haven't compared it to a 350. I was considering getting the new F-450 4x2 instead of the 4x4 but considered the trade value when it comes time to trade again and backed off that idea. I do know that the 4x2 is one inch taller than the 4x4 at the rear as listed on the spec sheets.
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03-22-2018, 02:37 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Mobile Suites 38rssa
State: Alaska
Posts: 253
THOR #8691
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They just started making f450 2wd this year, I wonder why it would b taller?????
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03-22-2018, 03:47 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
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Also either of the GM 3500 models can easily handle the task & in most cases are shorter than either of the others.
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03-22-2018, 10:55 PM
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Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Dallas
State: Texas
Posts: 31
THOR #3440
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f350ms38rssa
They just started making f450 2wd this year, I wonder why it would b taller?????
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I don't know why the 4x2 is taller than the 4x4, maybe something to do with the front sitting lower. I don't know what the turn radius of the 4x2 is either, hopefully the same as the 4x4. I would like to see the 4x2 but can't seem to find one on the lot anywhere.
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03-22-2018, 11:57 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: ES 38RSSA
State: Montana
Posts: 137
THOR #5034
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https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-du...50-king-ranch/
2018 specs. 4X2/4X4
Open tailgate to Ground - F-350 SRW 34.6"/37.6"
Open tailgate to Ground - F-350 DRW 34.3"/36.9"
Open tailgate to Ground - F-450 DRW 37.4"/37.3"
bed walls are 21" deep on all models so 58.4" OA
Front (rotor diameter)
14.29” (363 mm) (F-250/F-350)
15.39" (391 mm) (F-450)
Rear (rotor diameter)
14.29” (363 mm) (F-250/F-350)
15.75" (400 mm) (F-450)
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03-23-2018, 01:52 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,838
THOR #1661
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My RAM Dually loaded or not with the factory Rear air ride is 55" to top back corner of the bed.
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03-23-2018, 02:15 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Mobile Suites 38rssa
State: Alaska
Posts: 253
THOR #8691
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I had the 2 inch risers installed on my 38rssa, should that b enough for a 18 f350 or f450??
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03-23-2018, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38RSSA
State: Maryland
Posts: 193
THOR #4040
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F450 Insurance
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Originally Posted by f350ms38rssa
Does the f450 have a higher insurance cost????
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No --- but finding someone to insure it my be a challenge. Most insurance companies consider it a Commercial truck.
We have GEICO -- who gave us a great rate on my 2017 F450 and my wifes 2013 Tacoma. I did have to complete a questionnaire from Geico more or less verifying that this was not a commercial vehicle and would not be used as a commercial vehicle.
Don
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03-23-2018, 06:34 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38RSSA
State: Maryland
Posts: 193
THOR #4040
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Risers
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Originally Posted by f350ms38rssa
I had the 2 inch risers installed on my 38rssa, should that b enough for a 18 f350 or f450??
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I took my rig to MorRyde and with their measurements they installed 3" risers on our trailer.
Don
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2016 38RSSA FB Paint, induction cooktop, 3" Risers, solar, 4 batteries, Cheap Heat, MorRyde Steps
2017 F450 Lariat, CC, LB, 6.7, Chrome Pkg. Retrax, TS3 Hitch, 55g aux.tank, 200 psi air system
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03-24-2018, 03:42 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
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Once and for all--the 450 pickup is NOT detuned, only the cab/chassis models have less HP and TQ.
My '17 450 is 57.5" at the bed corner and 58" in the middle because of the built-in step lip. Clearance is very sufficient in my setup with no risers, but have heard of many that need/get them anyway.
My '17 450 costs less for the same coverage than my '11 MKX with a value several times lower. TX is a strange/costly state for vehicle insurance.....
BUT, I can't actually answer the OP question......because I don't know.
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03-25-2018, 04:47 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,838
THOR #1661
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"Clearance is very sufficient in my setup with no risers"
Have you weighed your axles separately? Before adding my risers I was 1,400# heavier on my rear axle.
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03-25-2018, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 44' Santa Fe
State: Montana
Posts: 392
THOR #2053
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My 44' Santa Fe does not have risers. My 4x4 2016 Ford F350 is completely stock. Have a Pulrite Super 24K hitch. Tows perfectly level.
Bill
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03-25-2018, 10:08 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtntrek
Front (rotor diameter) [/SIZE]
14.29” (363 mm) (F-250/F-350)
15.39" (391 mm) (F-450)
Rear (rotor diameter)
14.29” (363 mm) (F-250/F-350)
15.75" (400 mm) (F-450)
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Just looking at the brake specifications; it's easy to see the better choice...
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03-26-2018, 01:20 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
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Ron,
Haven't weighed the axles separately, but really not concerned about it since it's almost level.
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03-26-2018, 04:02 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,838
THOR #1661
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The 16 and older Fords do NOT need the risers but the 17 and newer do if a person wants their RV to ride "LEVEL".
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