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Old 10-08-2018, 10:04 PM   #41
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Towing with ACE 30.1

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We have never used a toad, but it may be time. We have a gas Class A (Thor ACE 30.1) (hydraulic brakes) and really don't want to have something sitting on the floor of the toad and clamped to the brake pedal. POSSIBLE toad is an old Subaru Legacy Outback, manual transmission. If you've got a great suggestion for some other toad, please share it.

I started out asking about brakes, but feel free to add your suggestions for tow bars and toad lights, as well. Across the board, we're looking for ease of use and reliability more than economy.

Thanks.
We have an ACE 30.1 2015 which we pull a 4 door Wrangler with. We had an SMI brake system installed, model #SI0807. After hooking up the Jeep we put it in park, transfer case to neutral, flip a switch under the dash to activate the system and we are good to go. The steps one goes through to set the jeep up will vary by year. Nothing clamped to the brake pedal. (I hope you have better luck with your ACE than we have).
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Old 10-08-2018, 10:54 PM   #42
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Well I canít be as complimentary of the SMI brake system (Stay and Play). After a couple of years mine has become quite a headache.
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Old 10-08-2018, 10:57 PM   #43
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We have never used a toad, but it may be time. We have a gas Class A (Thor ACE 30.1) (hydraulic brakes) and really don't want to have something sitting on the floor of the toad and clamped to the brake pedal. POSSIBLE toad is an old Subaru Legacy Outback, manual transmission. If you've got a great suggestion for some other toad, please share it.

I started out asking about brakes, but feel free to add your suggestions for tow bars and toad lights, as well. Across the board, we're looking for ease of use and reliability more than economy.

Thanks.
K6NCX,
For what it is worth, we have used a Blue Ox brake system with three different coaches and two different toads for a total of 40+ thousand miles. As you put it, it is a unit that sits on the floor and clamps to the brake pedal. We had a gas class A when we first purchased this unit. Since then we are on our 2nd diesel pusher. We have had most of the situations you are going to experience on the road with this set up and it has been effective. I was apprehensive at first as you indicated but has worked well. We spent $1,000 dollars vs $2,100 on other units at the time. Whatever you do, highly recommend some sort of braking on the toad.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:25 PM   #44
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I heard many good things about SMI Stay and Play but I have not had that experience with them.
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:31 PM   #45
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What controls the amount of braking pressure applied to the pedal? Is it the same pressure or some type on inertia that controls it?
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Old 10-09-2018, 04:55 PM   #46
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Its powered by brake lights and inertia to the control box. You can go on Demco website and download/view stay and play operators manual.
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:47 PM   #47
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Only one more trip and it is very short so will not tow. Thanks for the tips but it is headed back to installer before next camping season.
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:41 PM   #48
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We found a 1999 Sahara Wrangler with 151,000 miles, original owner, 4.0L inline 6, beautiful condition. We tow four flat with Blue Ox tow bar. No problems. No trailer to fuss with in campgrounds. Four minutes to hook up, four minutes to unhook. Jeep has transfer box - easy neutral. Invisibrake system is good - no boxes to connect, unhook.
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Old 10-10-2018, 12:20 AM   #49
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We picked up a Jeep Liberty Limited with 78,000 miles, 1 owner, V6, looks like new inside and out. We tow four down with a Road Master Falcon 2 tow bar. Five minutes to hook up or unhook. The Liberty has a transfer case so just pop it in neutral. Had the Invisibrake system installed in the Jeep - no boxes to connect or lug in and out of the Jeep, plug in the lights and go.
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Old 10-10-2018, 01:01 AM   #50
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Roadmaster tow bar, baseplates and wiring kit for tail lights.
RVIBrake2 is easy to setup for each trip.

We tow a 2012 Jeep Liberty 4x4.

Also have a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero setup with baseplates and wiring kit that we towed before we got the Jeep. Uses the same towbar and RVIBrake2.
Hi dlbeck27, Can I ask how your toad battery gets charged while underway? or do they get power from the motorhome? I'm thinking about getting a 2012 Liberty and am trying to get an order together. I really like RVIBrake system, it looks simple to set up and use. Thanks Bill
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Old 10-10-2018, 01:18 AM   #51
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Extra $99 and they add charger from RV to battery on car. Don't tow without it!
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:57 AM   #52
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Hi dlbeck27, Can I ask how your toad battery gets charged while underway? or do they get power from the motorhome? I'm thinking about getting a 2012 Liberty and am trying to get an order together. I really like RVIBrake system, it looks simple to set up and use. Thanks Bill
Bill, the battery is charged by the motorhome. The RVIBrake is easy to setup and can be monitored from the MH. I have towed about 15,000 miles with this setup and have had no issues. Dave
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