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02-20-2021, 02:20 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Virginia
Posts: 19
THOR #22247
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2017 Thor Axis steering stabilizer
See below post [Mod Edit]
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02-20-2021, 02:36 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Virginia
Posts: 19
THOR #22247
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2017 Thor Axis steering stabilizer
Just purchased 2017 Thor Axis 25.2. I read all the treads about steering stabilizer. I am little confused. Today I check under the RV looks like front sway bar, rear sway bar and steering stabilizer installed installed. I think these are factory installed by ford I am not sure. I did alignment. But driving on highway 60 mph holding in line not easy. My question is If I upgrade these with road master Do you think driving will be improved.
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02-20-2021, 02:36 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,397
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You can't post photos from your Google Photos account as the links lead to a google page, not a picture.
You have the standard steering damper and and sway bars.
Most people get good results with a steering stabilizer from Roadmaster or Safe T Plus as the next upgrade after alignment.
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2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
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02-20-2021, 02:41 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Virginia
Posts: 19
THOR #22247
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
You can't post photos from your Google Photos account as the links lead to a google page, not a picture.
You have the standard steering damper and and sway bars.
Most people get good results with a steering stabilizer from Roadmaster or Safe T Plus as the next upgrade after alignment.
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Hi
I am new to forum. I just figure out adding as attachment. I think I create another tread sorry for inconvenience.
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02-20-2021, 02:47 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2018 24.1 AXISSIXxSIX
State: Arizona
Posts: 6,939
THOR #13932
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You might want to put a few more miles on it before you decide.
A HUGE percentage of rv's, I'll guess 95%, never do suspension changes.
A LOT of the changes are just bandwagoneering.
Drive it a bit, get a little more comfortable.
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02-20-2021, 04:04 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
You can't post photos from your Google Photos account as the links lead to a google page, not a picture.
You have the standard steering damper and and sway bars.
Most people get good results with a steering stabilizer from Roadmaster or Safe T Plus as the next upgrade after alignment.
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If he bought it used it might already have an aftermarket stabilizer
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02-20-2021, 05:49 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,397
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete'sMH
If he bought it used it might already have an aftermarket stabilizer
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Did you look at the first picture? That's an OEM steering damper.
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2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
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02-20-2021, 06:10 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,227
THOR #13362
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I concur, those are all FORD OEM components, two sways + steering damper.
You can DIY front & rear Helwig Sways for about $600. You should also install the front Moog end links.
Or, as a lesser option for sway control and much less expensive...you can install front SUMO springs instead.
If you don’t want to spend the additional $600 + install cost for a “Steering Stabilizer”,
You can always go with a Bilstein steering damper for about $100. You will feel the difference. That’s an ez DIY install.
Everything is available on Amazon, competitive price, quick delivery, ez free returns.
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Fallbrook, CA
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02-20-2021, 07:53 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.5 / Keystone Mon
State: Arkansas
Posts: 149
THOR #20441
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2019 Vegas 25.5, did front Sumo's and rear Helwig Sway. Happy with results. Sway reduced and overall better feel at the freeway speeds. Still rolling with the OEM steering damper.
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02-20-2021, 05:27 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
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We went with Roadmaster stabilizer early on. It did make a big difference in wander/sway. That is all we have done as unit handles fine.
The reason we changed it was during early trips, while still working RV would sit 2 weeks then head to track, 85 mile trip. The RV after sitting would wahder/sway some. Then would be much calmer on trip home. Figured a HD unit plus return to center spring would be reasonable upgrade. I ordered and installed myself.
What I found with oem damper was that it needed a fair amount of movement before actual damping took place. Was either defective or weak. After change heading out was same as return trip.
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02-20-2021, 05:51 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Virginia
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THOR #22247
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Thank you all. I ordered following.
- Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer 31-140 Silver
-Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer Mounting Kit (Model: E-353K14)
- Roadmaster 1139-176 front Sway Bar
- Roadmaster Rear Anti-Sway Bar 1139-147
- SuperSprings International, Inc. SSF-106-47 | SumoSprings Front for Ford E-150|E-250, Ford E-350|E-450
I hope this will make better driving. If not I am planing to install following.
- SuperSteer SS402 Rear Trac Bar
- Bilstein B6 Series 4 Shocks Kit for 00-02 Ford E-450 Econoline Super Duty Ride Monotube replacement Gas Charged Shock absorbers part number 33-187570, 33-176857
I check moog end link is this correct one.
Moog K8987 Front Sway Bar End Link Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C59ZZ4...8WWN8GE4WD2DM5
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02-20-2021, 06:36 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,227
THOR #13362
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggs
We went with Roadmaster stabilizer early on. It did make a big difference in wander/sway. That is all we have done as unit handles fine.
The reason we changed it was during early trips, while still working RV would sit 2 weeks then head to track, 85 mile trip. The RV after sitting would wahder/sway some. Then would be much calmer on trip home. Figured a HD unit plus return to center spring would be reasonable upgrade. I ordered and installed myself.
What I found with oem damper was that it needed a fair amount of movement before actual damping took place. Was either defective or weak. After change heading out was same as return trip.
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The OEM Damper seems to do absolutely nothing. It's worthless when compared to a Steering Stabilizer, or even the upgraded Bilstein Damper.
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Fallbrook, CA
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02-20-2021, 08:36 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
Did you look at the first picture? That's an OEM steering damper.
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Oops. My bad. You’re right, of course. Usually I’m more careful.....
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02-20-2021, 08:44 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2018 24.1 AXISSIXxSIX
State: Arizona
Posts: 6,939
THOR #13932
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CevikT
Thank you all. I ordered following.
- Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer 31-140 Silver
-Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer Mounting Kit (Model: E-353K14)
- Roadmaster 1139-176 front Sway Bar
- Roadmaster Rear Anti-Sway Bar 1139-147
- SuperSprings International, Inc. SSF-106-47 | SumoSprings Front for Ford E-150|E-250, Ford E-350|E-450
I hope this will make better driving. If not I am planing to install following.
- SuperSteer SS402 Rear Trac Bar
- Bilstein B6 Series 4 Shocks Kit for 00-02 Ford E-450 Econoline Super Duty Ride Monotube replacement Gas Charged Shock absorbers part number 33-187570, 33-176857
I check moog end link is this correct one.
Moog K8987 Front Sway Bar End Link Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C59ZZ4...8WWN8GE4WD2DM5
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Please do a follow up with cost, installation cost and if the improvement was worth the cost.in expense and downtime.
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02-20-2021, 09:34 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Virginia
Posts: 19
THOR #22247
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ducksface
Please do a follow up with cost, installation cost and if the improvement was worth the cost.in expense and downtime.
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- Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer 31-140 Silver $362.46
- Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer Mounting Kit (Model: E-353K14) $60.66
- Roadmaster 1139-176 front Sway Bar $353.88
- Roadmaster Rear Anti-Sway Bar 1139-147 $479.96
- SuperSprings International, Inc. SSF-106-47 | SumoSprings Front for Ford E-150|E-250, Ford E-350|E-450 $184.99
Total part cost is $1441. Best price was on Amazon except rear sway bar purchased from e trailer. I am going to install by myself. Local repair shop give quote to install $3800 include parts.
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02-20-2021, 09:57 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,227
THOR #13362
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Helwig sway bars are $620 for both front&rear on Amazon
Also, I said in another post...I purchased the Moog end links for the fronts ($44 for the pair)
Although, even with the Moog’s, I recently broke one.
And the Moog’s are much beefier than the stock Ford end links
You’ll see when you start the install process
The new front sway bar is a monster that really torque’s, and keep your beast from rocking side to side
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Fallbrook, CA
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02-21-2021, 12:52 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Virginia
Posts: 19
THOR #22247
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taylorbob1
Helwig sway bars are $620 for both front&rear on Amazon
Also, I said in another post...I purchased the Moog end links for the fronts ($44 for the pair)
Although, even with the Moog’s, I recently broke one.
And the Moog’s are much beefier than the stock Ford end links
You’ll see when you start the install process
The new front sway bar is a monster that really torque’s, and keep your beast from rocking side to side
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Helwig is cheaper than road master after reading all reviews I decided to go RM.
I find moog on Amazon do you think this is the right one?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C59ZZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VR2NMJ8WWN8GE4WD2DM5
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02-21-2021, 01:36 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,227
THOR #13362
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02-21-2021, 02:10 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Virginia
Posts: 19
THOR #22247
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Originally Posted by taylorbob1
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Thank you. I will install these as well.
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02-24-2021, 08:58 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Alabama
Posts: 23
THOR #17238
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I also have a 2017 Thor. After doing everything you mentioned it would still not track like it should. Ended up getting the caster increased to +5 and that solved the problem. Good luck with yours.
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